Billy Meier vs other Contactees

[Ed V.]

Author Timothy Good wrote about this UFO sighting;
On a January night in 1978 Sergeant Tony Dodd and Police Constable Alan Dale were driving in the vicinity of Cononley, near Skipton, Yorkshire, in their official line of duty, when a strange aerial machine came into view. ‘We were going down a country lane,’ Sergeant Dodd explained, ‘and you know what it’s like up there – it was dark – and the only light you’ve got is your headlights. Suddenly the road in front of us lit up. Of course, the immediate reaction is, where’s the light coming from? But it was coming from above. We stopped the car, looked up, and there was this thing coming from our right to our left.’ The object was about 100 feet away, moving at less than 40 mph.’ It was glowing; like a bright white incandescent glow, and it came right over our heads,’ the police sergeant recalled.’ The whole unit was glowing. It was as if the metal of what this thing was made of was white hot. And there were these three great spheres underneath, like huge ball-bearings – three of them equally placed around it. There was a hollow area underneath and like a skirting around the bottom, but these things protruded below that.’ It was absolutely awe-inspiring to see it. I don’t know how to explain it to you – it was such a beautiful-looking thing. It seemed to have portholes round the dome – an elongated domed area. And what stood out more than anything else was the coloured lights dancing round on the outside of the skirt at the bottom. . . which gave the visual impression that it was rotating. Now whether the thing was going round, or whether it was just the lights that were going round and give that impression, I don’t know.I would say it was the lights that were going round because, when you were looking at the portholes, they didn’t seem to be going round in a circle as you would have expected.’ The object was completely soundless. ‘When the thing had passed over our heads it sort of went into the distance then suddenly appeared to come down: there’s a big wood to our left, right on a distant hillside, and it appeared to go down in that wood,’ said Sergeant
Dodd, who added that a third police officer had seen the object. ‘We carried on along this road and as we got towards the village we could see these lights coming towards us from the other direction – it was another police car. We stopped, and he said, “I’ve just been watching this damn great UFO, and it seems to have come right down somewhere over here!

Film made by another contactee by the name of Howard Menger in the 1950s. Unsurprisingly Billy Meier claims Howard Menger was a fraud despite eyewitnesses that supported him…

[Annubitch]

Ed V no one is disputing yours or anyone else’s sighting of a UFO. Sightings, whether intentional or not were to specifically provoke the question – are we alone in the universe? Why are you still asking that question 70 years later? Peel the eye candy off and delve into the material and quit relying on heresay in your investigation.
Many are called out as having “real vision”. Do you know what “real vision” is Ed V? Just like retarded regressive hypnotherapy and debriefing, it leaves behind false memories. Because you’re such a smarty pants, what is your mechanism for determining if someone is telling the truth or if someone is telling the truth based on false memories?

[Shooter McGavin]

There were about twenty of us standing outside of a little restaurant, I believe, a high school lunch room, and a kind of green light appeared in the western sky. This was right after sundown. It got brighter and brighter, that’s when I sharted myself and had to dash to the restroom. And then it eventually disappeared. It didn’t have any solid substance to it, it was just a very peculiar-looking light. None of us could understand what it was.

All of a sudden, one of the men looked up and said, ‘Look, over in the west!’ And there was a bright light in the sky. We all saw it, we couldn’t unwatch it. And then the light, it got closer and closer to us. And then it stopped, I don’t know how far away, but it stopped beyond the pine trees, that’s when I sharted myself and had to dash to the restroom. And all of a sudden it changed color to blue, and then it changed to red, then back to white. And we were trying to figure out what in the world it could be, and then it receded into the distance.

[Ed V.]

‘Real vision?’ You mean to tell me the eyewitnesses in the Meier case were influenced by some telepathically induced hallucination?

[Ed V.]

Here’s another account from Peru;

‘I never thought I would see a flying saucer, much less photograph one,’ said Lima architect Hugo Luyo Vega, following the sighting of an unknown flying machine, identical to George Adamski’s ‘scoutcraft’, which Vega photographed on 19 October 1973. On the day in question, Vega had taken a client into the Lima countryside in search of a home site. They had driven about 54 miles inland along the Rimac River when they took a break near a valley surrounded by tall hills. Suddenly, Vega told reporters, ‘my client, obviously exicted, told me he saw a shining object in the bottom of the valley that was advancing towards us extremely slowly.’

“The car was not far away. I ran back for my camera, because in that fraction of a second I thought I, too, had seen something interesting. When I pointed my [Polaroid] camera and took the picture, the object was less than 50 yards away from us and about 20 yards off the ground. Suddenly, the object changed direction, headed toward the east and increased its speed. It rose off the ground as if trying to avoid some high-tension wires that came down from the top of one of the hills and crossed the valley, and disappeared from view. It was of the colour of burnished silver [and] shaped like an overturned soup plate with a cupola on top. At the very top of the cupola, there was a round object giving off a fixed, sky-blue light. Lower on the cupola, we could see a row of small windows like port-holes in a ship.”

On the bottom of the craft was what appeared to be ‘the propulsive force of the object. . . a dark red throbbing light that was aimed toward the ground from a sort of turbine in the middle of the upside-down plate. Near the turbine-like part, we could see protuberances like half-eggs.’ The architect said that only about 30 seconds from the time they spotted the object until it disappeared. ‘For a moment I didn’t actually think the picture would come out all right, for I don’t consider myself all that good a photographer, and I was greatly surprised when I saw that it had come out,’ Vega continued. ‘All the photo showed was the thing’s shape, but at any rate this little piece of evidence is enough to prove that it was a real “UFO” and not an invention of the mind.’ It took the witnesses some 20 minutes to recover from their astonishment.

[Annubitch]

Not going to answer the question Ed V? Is that because you’ve been “debriefed” as well?

[Ed V.]

Annubitch, didn’t have a ‘real vision’ in my entire life. All the “aliens” had to do was to “project” an undressed gorgeous woman in my bedroom telling me to keep quiet.. That never happened, go figure!

[Annubitch]

Well don’t let an undressed gorgeous woman in your bedroom telling you to keep quiet, stop you from telling the truth.

[Pedro Bourbon]

Mr Meier had a real vision from Arahat Athersata many times. Those around him also experienced this. For example when Billy came to buy the Semjase Silver Star Center the previous owner was compelled by the hallucination vision ghost experience to reduce the cost and give Meier Arahat Athersata preferential rates (ghost-mate-rates). The ghosties gave a real vision before their job interviews for central government also. When the candidates were ready to submit their applications to central governments for yet another role in the bureaucracy of central government authority the ghosts from the geistlehre gave them a real vision to ensure the Arahat Athersata employed the best candidates by their definition. When the administrators from central government decided something which was controversial and caused uprising, the ghosts from Arahat Athersata came along and quelled the wannabe revolutionaries with peace and calm, whom dropped their placards and subsequently got back to work in the coal mines and factories. The Arahat Athersata likes to have ghost sex with the candidates it like and which the Plejaren choose and are elect and noble and selected, this seals the bond. Some call it a hallucination others a vision and others real or not real and a dream etc. opinions are variable.

Pedro (real and best guy)

[Annubitch]

I would call it that Pedro lives a rich fantasy life fueled by too much Bourbon. What a load of crap.

[Ed V.]

Another account indirectly supporting the ‘early contactees;’

My first sighting took place in Stawell, Victoria Australia, in about 1958. (Boy, how does anyone remember back that far.) I was around eleven years of age and it was probably spring or summer of that year as it was a fine cloudless day. Not usual at all, in the other months of the year. I remember the occurrence vividly. It was 11:30 AM and I was about to leave the house by the front door. This door faces due west and if not for the house across the street it would have been possible to see the Grampians Mountains around 20 Km away. As I left the house, I noticed a gleaming silver object the size of a dot at an elevation of 15 to 20 degrees dead ahead of me. It was later estimated by all witnesses to be around 10 Km distant which would mean its height would have been around 1,500 to 2,000 feet. It was giving off a series of repeated bright lights from underneath, Blue, Red, Green, White, in that order. I couldn’t see what the “dot” was, but it was hovering in the one spot without moving. I watched it for a few minutes and then called my parents who came and saw the same thing as I did. After a while we called the neighbors from across the street, who brought over their tripod mounted telescope. It was only a 4 inch ‘scope but it brought the object into clear and undisputed view. It was a classic early 1950s flying saucer.
A flat bottomed disc with a turret type dome on top with windows and the old 3 ball type undercarriage protrusions beneath it. The flashing lights were coming from a point directly under the middle of the disc. I had seen pictures of the original flying saucers, which by that time, had been resoundingly debunked by officialdom and ridiculed by the press so I was not a stranger to what it was. Nor were my parents and my neighbors. There was one difference I noted from the pictures though. Where the old pictures showed round porthole type windows, this craft had vertically elongated rectangular windows with rounded tops. Just like the narrow church windows you sometimes see. All of us watched that disc hovering there without movement or change until after 1 PM, almost 2 hours. Having other things to do, we gradually broke up and went away and the next time I looked for it, it was gone. With multiple witnesses watching this UFO in daylight for such a long period through a telescope, I conclude that there is no doubt it was an alien constructed flying machine. What its reasons for being there and all the other question as to where it came from, etc., remain unknown, but one thing is for sure…. It shaped my belief in the phenomenon for the rest of my life. Brad Mildern January 5, 2004

[Ed V.]

Now you know how I feel when Meier claims other contactees such as Adamski and Menger used “the power of suggestion” making eyewitness see things that weren’t there. To paraphrase you, what a load of crap..

[Annubitch]

None of the postings say anything about a “contact” only a sighting. Most everyone I know has seen a UFO. I had another sighting myself a few months ago. It looked like a witch’s hat slightly tilted, fully lit up in a gold light. I can only speculate where it came from and wasn’t quick enough with my camera. But you are claiming to have had a contact Ed V which demands proof. Where is your damn proof?

[Ed V.]

What I intended to show, which you obviously missed, is that the “Adamski UFO” has been sighted around the world and where Adamski was no where near the eyewitness. So the claim by Meier and his Plejaren bitch Semjase. hypnotic suggestion, doesn’t fly here because the eyewitnesses never met Adamski! So regardless Meier’s idiotic debunking attampts there’s still a case. The observation of a distinct kind of UFO.

[Annubitch]

Ed V you have no reason to disparage Billy or Semjase simply because you’ve never read any of Meier’s material to know what he did or did not claim. Grow up.
You’ve been alluding to a “contact” which I think is bullshit because you have no proof. There are many types of craft but you think a new file should be opened on the one you saw? But it’s an old Adamski type so it’s not a new one. Better call Saul or Mufon haha. I’m sure you would feel at home there.

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