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April 21, 2018 at 12:44 AM #9415Jacobs TroubleGuest
the surface serves to protect those who really are not ready for the extraterrestrial reality
They say their technology has measured that 82% of all Earth humans are associated with the diverse religions denominations. All religions are founded on the original extraterrestrial interventions, disturbances and various world protections etc from ancient times which makes this comment “the surface serves to protect those who really are not ready for the extraterrestrial” because they’ve already had a full dose of exposure, some since their earliest years. Be careful.
April 21, 2018 at 12:49 AM #9416Jacobs TroubleGuestMost of the religions have stories about extraterrestrials in then, sure they are distorted and warped strangely in an alienating denial way, but the truth it’s all there even if the presentation is cryptic and alienating. Remember that most could not read until 100 years ago
April 22, 2018 at 12:41 AM #9417Some possibilities to consider:
A) The Plejaren/Pleiadians may not have had any direct contact with Earth humans from that time, only indirect contact via Jmmanuel, similar to what it is now with Meier.
B) The Plejaren/Pleiadians may not have had the same policies in place at that time. Events since then, distortion of spiritual teachings for example, may have shaped these policies over the years.
C) The Plejaren/Pleiadians may not have been the only extraterrestrials to visit Earth in ancient times. Others may not have had the same policies regarding contact with lesser developed societies.
D) Earth humans may very well have suffered from these early contacts in ways we are not aware of. Not everything that happened was necessarily recorded or if it was, survived.In short, ancient alien contacts does not reduce the possibility that the Plejaren/Pleiadians chose to implement a staged, fake UFO hoax to make indirect contact with our planetary society.
April 22, 2018 at 1:28 AM #9418Jacobs TroubleGuestA) no, they had more contact back then than today according to the TJ, one of the Plejaren men approached guards at the resurrection tomb aka hospital and unleashed powers upon them.
B) the only problem that has ever existed Taro is that telepathy has never been taught on Earth, we don’t live long enough to learn it on our own because of the abnormal genetic life expectancy limitation. Why is that a problem? Because humans who don’t know it are not treated the same way, treated as primitives. It is a very bad cycle on Earth that is why despite the Plejaren stemming from the same ancestors as us have made considerably more progress.
C) The pyramids is an interesting section, the Plejaren are alluding to several even many races coming to Earth, like the bible says it, giants etc, but the Plejaren always maintained a silence and manipulated them alike. Don’t forget it’s a multicultural developing world yet look at the beautiful dna that we have, we are already in the position you said about and are talking about already there.The process usually takes hundreds of thousands of years Taro, Nokodemion came here almost 400k years ago to Earth, but in the last 10k we have a 10x speed boost and because of it the Plejaren can play many many games, they are just waiting for the average evolution rating to hit a score rating, quickly, then they will put it back to normal again by telepathically broadcasting how to genetically engineer ourselves like they broadcasted how to make the foo fighters in ww2 they do the same then and no one will ever object to it because they believe in god and are confused will never know or be so weak in their body they never could and the Plejaren can use the fine material force to force the way they want it to be and have many years to think through what we have to think through and do in a day, so are strong, mighty and capable of whatever they want, just like every other group in the federation which is not allowed to interfere with us, they have allied every group that have tried to help us and then banned them from helping us. This is why the ufo phenomenon is no longer a thing it has slowed down considerably despite there being more people in the world and more cameras to see and share it than before.
April 22, 2018 at 9:09 AM #9420A) no, they had more contact back then than today according to the TJ, one of the Plejaren men approached guards at the resurrection tomb aka hospital and unleashed powers upon them.
And Kalliope was witness to a Plejaren dematerializing, on two separate occasions. I’m not sure their level of contact back then was much different than now. In either case it was minimal.
This is why the ufo phenomenon is no longer a thing it has slowed down considerably despite there being more people in the world and more cameras to see and share it than before.
Well, as far as Plejaren/Pleiadian UFO activity, I think it has more to do with the arrival of the digital age. Meier’s evidence is significant because all of it was prior to the digital age. These days a teenager can create convincing UFO videos. And as for UFO sightings in general, the Plejaren/Pleiadians have the technology to mask their ships visibility as well as sound. Not all ET’s have it or care. There still are UFO sightings but how can you distinguish it from all the fake stuff out there?
April 22, 2018 at 12:11 PM #9421Jacobs TroubleGuestThere has been such a small variety of sightings in the 21st century despite the camera equipment and doubling and doubling again of the population that I’ve become a skeptic that 98% of anything ufology that happened in the 20th 19th 18th 17th and 16th centuries ever actually happened and it were not just a big story while the real stories were unreported and never mentioned in public by those persons.
however there is a bigger quantity in the 21st century of stupid fake computer generated and fake obviously fake rubbish ufology more than a sewers experience fat burgs to the ratio of feces and become blocked. So I am not a skeptic but I think the Plejaren federation must be are selecting individuals 2% and the rest feel left out so invent rubbish stories and hallucinate their way into inclusion etc
April 24, 2018 at 9:50 PM #9425Jacobs Trouble, you’ve posted seven comments now yet managed to avoid answering these simple questions:
Is it POSSIBLE for aliens to have staged a fake UFO hoax? If not, why not?
I’m beginning to wonder why you joined this thread but steer clear of these most relevant questions.
April 27, 2018 at 9:30 PM #9426Jacobs TroubleGuestIt is IMPOSSIBLE for aliens to stage UFO hoaxes, because there are no sane extraterrestrials out there anywhere who would approach a capitalist world and adamantly avoid and alienate the rich.
It’s even debateable really whether you could find an insane ET to waste the time to actively avoid the rich ie avoid anyone who could say or do anything aka waste of time in other words insane or under-sane, delusional, irrational. They would have to be some bored stupid ETs to avoid the only group on a capitalistically configured world who could do anything about anything and alienate that group by staging a fake UFO hoax, no it is impossible to extremely unlikely for anyone alien (ET) out in the universe to have that quantity and amount of time to ignore and alienate the rich on a capitalist world, never been done
April 27, 2018 at 11:44 PM #9427It is IMPOSSIBLE for aliens to stage UFO hoaxes, because there are no sane extraterrestrials out there anywhere who would approach a capitalist world and adamantly avoid and alienate the rich.
Meier’s UFO evidence is available to EVERYONE, rich or poor although some poor will obviously be alienated due to limited means. The rich are not alienated in any way.
It’s even debateable really whether you could find an insane ET to waste the time to actively avoid the rich ie avoid anyone who could say or do anything
They would have to be some bored stupid ETs to avoid the only group on a capitalistically configured world who could do anything about anything
What exactly are you talking about here? What is it you ASSUME aliens need the rich for?
Like many, you appear to ASSUME the ET’s objective is to convince this entire world of their existence. Why do you make this ASSUMPTION?
April 28, 2018 at 10:10 PM #9429Jacobs TroubleGuestI’m not confident you know what your talking about Taro.
On a world that has an emperor or high ruler or religious ruler etc then ‘aliens’ / Plejaren go to them because it would be stupid no? to go to anyone else.
On a world that has a communism or oligarchy or big man ruler etc then ‘aliens’ / Plejaren go to them because it would be stupid no? to go to anyone else.
On a world that has a rich or wealthy or populists etc then ‘aliens’ / Plejaren go to them because there it would be stupid no? to go to anyone else.
It is not that they need the rich or need the high priest or high ruler or something else, it just doesn’t make sense to avoid that individual(s) or group does it.
To be fair Eduard/Plejaren has brought the religious into the story and embraced them and told their story and explained that the pope’s advisors have read the contact reports etc, and has pointed out to be fair that 82% are religious so in that way it is not strange.
But it is still a capitalist world, and capitalists only get rich by attaining the raw facts and using them etc, so Eduard/Plejaren would need to make the evidence concrete and undeniable to not alienate the rich.
Who cares about the poor and the nobody’s on a capitalist world, I think you are confused about the implications of such a regime and how those that shout loudest and offer the services that others wants etc
April 29, 2018 at 9:02 AM #9430Well, I’m confident that I DO know what I’m talking about, so I guess that makes us even.
As I’ve already stated: You appear to ASSUME the ET’s objective is to convince this entire world of their existence.
Why do you make this ASSUMPTION?
They make no such claims that I’m aware of. However, consider what they have stated:
“…such things as the strange flight maneuvers of our flying objects had been performed to generate doubt, deliberation and this worldwide UFO controversy” ~Ptaah(Contact Report 251)
DOUBT. DELIBERATION. CONTROVERSY.
Your assumption appears to be wrong.
April 29, 2018 at 9:51 PM #9481Jacobs TroubleGuestYou appear to ASSUME the ET’s objective is to convince this entire world of their existence. Why do you make this ASSUMPTION?
A: All the major religions are based on contact with the Plejaren ie with Nokodemion spirit-form during any of the many and short incarnations in recent history.
B: 82% of people on Earth are religious.No you don’t know what your talking about, if you take more time over reading Billy Meiers text from the Plejaren you would know they use fine-material technologies to essentially force all but the strongest atheists under their “teachings”, you have not studied what Billy Meier and the Plejaren are doing and why they are doing to know what you are talking about. You do not even understand what the high council means and what it represents and why they have even bothered to do any of the things they have been doing.
There are no ufos to Billy’s story Taro, that is the side show, it’s all about how they have taken on and over the whole world on by using nokodemion in many lives with a small army of working and high technologies and the high council and its amounted to 82% in organised religions and none of it would have been possible if our life expectancy was not as low as it is. You do not know what you are dealing with if you think it’s about ufos, that is not even worth talking about.
April 29, 2018 at 9:57 PM #9482Jacobs TroubleGuestWhen are you going to read what he has written Taro? You have spent years of your life looking at photos and trying to convince others (maybe even yourself) why not read now what he has said given that you have talked yourself into it as far as you have?
April 30, 2018 at 1:28 PM #9490Shiela ClarkeGuestWHAT Jacobs Trouble! TARO IS RIGHT! Ptaah said they made a flight maneuvers to instil doubt? What are you spewing Jacob If that is your real name I.doubt. YOU are the one who has misunderstood what ptaah has said, and anyone who misunderstands ptaah it is their problem not yours.
April 30, 2018 at 2:51 PM #9491A: All the major religions are based on contact with the Plejaren ie with Nokodemion spirit-form during any of the many and short incarnations in recent history.
Allowing information about themselves and open contact with a planetary society are two completely different things. You appear to be confusing the two.
they use fine-material technologies to essentially force all but the strongest atheists under their “teachings”
Force? I’m sure you’ve misunderstood the contact report. In any case, I consider Meier’s contact reports as part of his UFO evidence and cannot dispute the possibility that Meier may have included some deliberate disinformation in his texts as part of the staged hoax. Meier himself tells us to question everything he says.
There are no ufos to Billy’s story Taro, that is the side show
The UFO’s are very real. If you think otherwise, you have either not truly studied the evidence or lack the ability to understand the details. And yes, the UFO’s are definitely part of Meier’s “story”. That’s precisely what this thread is all about. Meier’s UFO evidence is unduplicatable. This means something to the true critical thinker. I’m curious, do you have any science background, Jacobs Trouble? It is the key to understanding the significance of his UFO evidence: Once you have the ability to get past the surface appearance of hoax, sooner or later you will ask yourself, why would Meier and his ET friends hide the truth in what at first appears to be a hoax? There is more to the UFO evidence than just eye candy, in my opinion of course.
You do not know what you are dealing with if you think it’s about ufos, that is not even worth talking about.
I think this thread is about UFO’s. I think this website is about UFO’s. I never said Meier’s mission on Earth is about UFO’s. If this is what you think then it is yet another ASSUMPTION you’ve made. You make a lot of assumptions, Jacobs Trouble.
When are you going to read what he has written Taro?
When you quote, with a verifiable reference what you believe is relevant to this discussion.
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