Is it POSSIBLE for aliens to have staged a fake UFO hoax?

[Oliver]

You are a POS liar Tardo. Show me where I wrote that the earth is flat.
You are just making things up to defend your delusions and charlatan Meier’s grand hoax.

*Fake ET/Space/Time Travel Photos* 100% debunked by BMUFOR. Pterodactyl photo out of childrens text book ‘Life Before Man’, drawn by Zdenek Burian. Ptaah and Meier a picture from the movie ‘The Mouse On The Moon’ (GB 1963), The Great Spacer out of the German 70’s Sci-Fi TV series ‘Die Fantastischen Abenteuer Der Raumpatrouille Orion’ etc. etc.
+ *Highly Sketchy WCUFO Photos* (Model copied 1:1 by Phil Langdon) Harcostar drum lid fits all other components like 30mm Christmas globes, shelf pins, curtain rings and shallow flower pot underliners PERFECT.
*+ 100% proof of plagiarism* ‘Might of Thought’ is a 1:1 copy of ‘As a Man Thinketh’ by David Allen (published 1902)
*+ Endless post-diction and printing manipulations of supposed ‘predictions’* Latest re-write/re-publish by Ted Denmark in 2013
*+ FIGU seeking to burn older, case-invalidating material* (Contact Notes from the 70’s/80s) due to grammatical errors.
*+ 23 failed assasination attempts* without any shred of evidence and/or police reports.
*+ Belief stretching personal claims* (most advanced individual in the Universe, Jesus, Mohammed, Last Prophet), only UFO contactee in the world.
*+ Payoff of worldwide fame and an at least comfortable income* ….. etc… etc… etc… = Genuine Case or Fraud?

*Fraud*

[Taro]

You are a POS liar Tardo. Show me where I wrote that the earth is flat.
You are just making things up to defend your delusions and charlatan Meier’s grand hoax.

Here is what Rhal wrote to me in one of the comment threads at BMUFOR/UFO Prophet:

“Oh, I see. Thank you Taro. This is the guy that is trying to prove the Earth is flat. He contacted me before to debate about Meier evidence, and his prove that extraterrestrial life does not exist was that we live “under the dome”, the Earth is flat and stars and extraterrestrial planets do not exist. For him, stars are just little bright spots on a dome covering the flat Earth.”

So, if Rhal has you confused with someone else and this is NOT the reason you believe extraterrestrials cannot possibly exist then why else?

WHY DO YOU BELIEVE ALIENS CANNOT EXIST?

The more you continue avoiding this question the more obvious your true beliefs become, whoever you really are.

[Oliver]

Stop lying and with your bullshit reTardo.
Nobody takes you serious and your circular reasoning is pathetic.
I was NEVER in contact with ‘Rhal Zahi’ nor told him anything like that.

Not only aliens can stage a hoax landing, even one armed Swiss bandits can. Although charlatan Meier NEVER showed a disc landing nor taking off. LOL!

[Taro]

Not only aliens can stage a hoax landing

So, HOW do you know they didn’t?

[Oliver]

Because there is NO irrefutable, tangible evidence that ‘Alien’s’ landed on our planet.
That’s why champ.

[Oliver]

For any kind of proof to convince the world of Meier’s veracity, it’s going to need to be convincing enough to not need hundreds of hours of deep research into the fine grain details of Meier’s entire life, where one is confronted with obvious evidence of fraud and fakery.

Meier’s supporters like you who come here make such efforts to try to convince everyone else he’s not a fraud, when if Meiers himself really wanted to prove that, and he really was in contact with aliens, it should be the easiest thing to do. Bring a few reporters from news outlets you trust to a field, and bring them on board a beamship, let them talk to aliens, etc.

Now of course, when you bring this up to a Meier’s supporter, they are going to respond with some kind of reasoning such as yours, excuses why nobody but Meier’s can meet with the aliens. That right there is a giant indicator of a hoax in and of itself, in my book.

[Beavis Halliday Faraday]

Hello, Billy is the candidate. I have been reading this forum for a while now. What I will say is that some of the chatter is interesting, some not and some does not make sense. To those saying alien contact has not happened, ok you are wrong, we have been waiting for contact in the modern time. This contact occurs once every hundred to two hundred years, has been expected now and has always been with us in history and it has made us happier with Billy Meier for including religious explanations because it is written that there will be a contact at this time. We have been looking for the right candidate for it and Billy is the only candidate now who has published the special details we need. We needed a full spectrum from the candidate which stack up high fact on fact until there was everything we needed. The other UFO candidates talked about Venusians and Marsians and sexy night experiences and this went down against their credibility but with Billy he has answered every question the way we expected the candidate to. We know so far that aliens only communicate on a one on one basis or as part of a group or community experience and they do this for reasons that a scientist would have to write an essay about, very complex but entirely logical and reasonable. With the UFO religions there are always the mark against candidates but with Billy because Billy knows we are looking for the candidate he has made special preparations to clarify specific details that we are looking for.

There is a small possibility that Billy knows the selection protocols for the candidate and manipulated his contact notes as a means of making himself appear the one and only candidate, even though more than one candidate is possible but unlikely at the same time. We’re reasonably comfortable that Billy is the candidate however because there has been a special series of pages which has clarified the candidates code which is only given to the one and only candidate by the strong spirits. There is too much evidence in support of his selection. However the candidate has never been revealed to the entire world like Billy has before and the trials in the earliest days revealed that the candidate may loose his life if revealed, reasons are envy, strong emotional feelings and of being deceived but mainly of being confronted by reality which has never been popular on urde.

The candidate therefore has a difficult task and prep for the task, which billy fulfils and a controversial arrangement of candidate selection revelations which billy fulfils and beat the wealthiest employees with knowledge using the knowledge by knowledge system which billy fulfils and the candidate by election impulsation reveal conjecture which billy fulfils with the method of solving that he has implemented with the mantra des heal that he fulfils with the classic of the prophet of prophet, prophets implementation technicality which gets very complicated with the differential equation of the prophet prophet technical and the knowledge by the knowledge handle procedure the UFO religious text technical and complex which billy fulfills, he is the candidate of candidate, candidates. Good day.

[Taro]

Because there is NO irrefutable, tangible evidence that ‘Alien’s’ landed on our planet.

That’s just bad logic. The electron was a theory in 1838 but wasn’t discovered, i.e. there wasn’t any “irrefutable, tangible evidence” until 1897. Are you telling me the electron did not exist until 1897?

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

The REAL reason is you don’t actually believe aliens can exist within your little dome-in universe. Nothing can exist outside of the planetarium-like screen covering your flat Earth.

This explains

why you don’t believe aliens could stage a fake UFO hoax(plausible deniability).
why you troll every Meier page with the same canned arguments.
why you feel the need to use derogatory language in an attempt to intimidate.

For any kind of proof to convince the world

Convince? Silvio, once again you make assumptions. Show me where Meier says or writes that he wants to convince the world his ET friends are real.

obvious evidence of fraud and fakery.

You see fraud and fakery only because it is what you NEED to believe in order for your fantasy, snow-globe universe to survive. You are clearly not objective in the least. You ignore anything scientific because you do not believe in science. There are numerous ways to prove the Earth is round but it involves some basic science. Here’s a few. The last two cannot be explained by your planetarium show:

Meier’s supporters like you who come here make such efforts to try to convince everyone else he’s not a fraud

I’m a supporter of the objective approach, wherever it leads. I’m not trying to convince anyone. I’m interested in challenging the logic applied to this deliberately controversial UFO case.

excuses why nobody but Meier’s can meet with the aliens. That right there is a giant indicator of a hoax in and of itself, in my book.

Your “book” has zero chapters on science…because science would collapse your fantasy world. Plausible deniability would explain why the contacts are tightly controlled from the very specific UFO images and flight maneuvres right down to the one contact person.

[Tony]

Taro to answer your original question on this topic, I think personally that rather than the Plejaran creating a fake hoax they have perhaps purposely made it incredibly difficult for both sides to prove anything conclusively enabling the decades of controversy to ensue while the mission plays out.
We know from the contact notes that they have made mistakes in the past and that other races above the Plejaran are involved so maybe there is a mix of tactics going on as they tried to keep the mission on course with the various types of evidence always a balancing act going on. Enough to keep the topic going in the public consciousness for over 60 years allowing the word to spread slowly with people who would understand, leaving enough doubt that people who couldn’t or would choose not to understand would be satisfied with their own ignorance and keep their sanity. All the while allowing Billy to complete his mission of writing down the special teachings for preservation of the future.
That was the only mission really, people like crazy guy with the multiple accounts don’t get that. The Plejaran never had any intention of convincing people like him, I’m not sure about Billy’s involvement in the balancing act as he frequently requested things from them that were denied according to the contact notes. It’s frustrating for all concerned. I have problems with their methods myself and their history of involvement in varying degrees in our relatively recent history. They seem to be a little blase about setting up a couple of thousand years of bloodshed in order to get to an end point only they can see. Perhaps it’s a factor of living for so much longer than us and having actual factual knowledge of reincarnation instead of speculation for us
. But that’s just my theory.

[Tony]

I meant spiritual teachings not special.

[Taro]

I think we’re pretty much saying the same thing. “Fake hoax” is just my way of saying the UFO evidence Meier was permitted to release was very carefully planned and executed to resemble a hoax on the surface only. I like your knife edge analogy. You really start to see it once you look deep into the UFO stuff. I personally believe the contact notes contain either deliberately false information or at the least, set up to appear questionable. I believe they expect us to verify everything for ourselves(wherever possible). So, everything is suspect. I think even the stuff that was blamed on human error may have been planned that way. Just my take on it. I think it might be hard for us to imagine what things are like from their perspective. Not only thousands of years advanced with 10x the life span but knowledge of previous lives, having been exactly where we are now, having apparently gone through this process with other worlds, etc.

[pleiadian_sprout_sax]

This is a further blow to Michael’s Horn.

Harvard Prof. Avi Loeb’s Search for ET Is Over

[Annubitch]

Sounds like you tards are jealous.

[tenderlady]

I’ve been going through an identity crisis annuslag. One day i’m Celina Dione and the next day tenderlady again. I started all this back in 2007 when I introduced myself on Facebook to the Billy Meier Facebook group. I changed my photo to a South American person with a baseball cap on, and got to know some folks really well, we were best friends. Then later in 2011 I changed it to a south East Asian person with sunglasses on, and got to know some more folks really well in the group, we were best friends. Then in 2017 I finally decided to post my real picture of my face, and all my friendships I made with people from the developed countries were all gone because I was stupid enough to think that hiding my identity was cool because everyone was doing it. Now in 2019 I am faced with telling everyone who I was and what we spoke about all over again and then explain myself and the predicament I have got into with all of them.

tenderlady

[Taro]

Have there been posts deleted by the admin recently? I’ve been made aware that my very informative comparison has possibly disappeared:

https://archive.org/details/BillyMeier808ComparisonWithPhilLangdon

A simple comparison of an original UFO photo with its corresponding skeptic produced, debunk effort is very educational. It’s also particularly relevant to this thread.

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