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January 23, 2016 at 1:48 PM #6185WMGuest
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January 23, 2016 at 1:40 amBilly Meier has been proven to heavily postdict. Meier almost always trails his predictions and/or he is able to reach firm enough ground in his reading for a firm intuitive leap in the form of a more vague and later malleable prediction to be made.
http://www.topsecretwriters.com/2013/12/did-any-of-the-billy-meier-predictions-ever-come-true/
If you are actually interested in the truth Michael, post and reply to these argument point by point.
ReplyMH January 23, 2016 at 2:05 am
Utter nonsense from someone who uses skeptics for his research. I wrote one blog about these incompetents before (http://theyflyblog.com/2014/03/23/rude-dude-rube-dube/) and I think that Taro Istok took them apart again last year. If you don’t have the plain intelligence to look at all the linked and referenced information that clearly substantiates Meier’s prophetic accuracy, well, go back to the other forums you spam and entertain them. Reply
Posted on Michael Horn’s site.
WM January 23, 2016 at 3:21 am
Mr. Meier also postdicted the Canary Island quake/tsunami threat. There was a big TV documentary done on it well before Meier’s predictions, there obviously also being a sizable body of scientific data predating this. Also, his Fukushima “predictions” are meaningless for establishing prophetic or predictive ability. I for one instantly knew everything his trumpeted “predictions” encompassed as I watched the event unfold real time, as did many alternative media sources and more informed people, including readers here. Meier’s statements were in fact well behind people more on top of that situation. Ditto for the Gulf Oil Spill situation as well as overall environmental degradation and potential collapse worldwide. I spend quite a bit of time with environmental scientists and holistic thinkers who have arrived at this inescapable solution long ago. It is no measure of a party’s supernormal predictive or prophetic abilities at all to say someone’s calling a spade a spade in a situation where corporate-state controlled and corrupted mainstream media sources simply won’t speak the obvious truth. Reply
▪MH January 23, 2016 at 3:59 am
Ya know, it sometimes appears that I’m rude to people who simply want to come and make stupid, unsubstantiated remarks, solely for the purpose of attacking Meier. I guess I won’t disappoint my critics. “There was a big TV documentary…” A few things to say here. First, when was it and what were the details given? Did they include the recommendation for grading down the western facing side, the depth of the penetration of the ensuing tsunami, the numbers of people who would lose their lives, etc.? Does it invalidate Meier’s information if someone else also has come to the same conclusion? Did the person(s) who may have come to those conclusions also post the same voluminous, varied and specific prophetic information that Meier has? Can we establish with certainty that Meier saw the documentary, etc., etc., etc.? Re Fukushima, gee, this anonymous person would like us to take his generalized, unsubstantiated, non-specific claims as some kind of “proof” that he and other anonymous people “knew” all of the exact details, many of which have only been corroborated in the last few months. But for some peculiar reason, he didn’t submit his own dated documentation here…while he attacks Meier, who had indeed done so. Re the Gulf Oil Spill, to use his own word, “Ditto”, nothing at all to substantiate his claims or criticisms. And of course it’s again only recently that Meier’s SPECIFIC information has been corroborated. As for the criticism re Meier’s environmental information, while this anonymous and obviously screamingly inept blowhard would like to dismiss Meier’s prophetic accuracy, in terms of environmental destruction and degradation, his information goes back 65 years, also establishing Meier as the first person to specify unnatural manmade climate change, global warming, etc., etc., etc. In place of ONE single piece of actual evidence, our delusional friend here tells us that he spends “quite a bit of time with environmental scientists and holistic thinkers” none of whom he names (he doesn’t even actually…name himself) and fails of course to comprehend that when Meier was first publishing all of this, in 1951 when he was 14 years-old, he wasn’t sitting around with “environmental scientists and holistic thinkers”, most of whom didn’t even exist at the time. Now, while more could be said about just how pathetically suicidal such a cynical consciousness is, why heap insult upon injury, when this person has to live with such polluted thinking and negativity? I’ll spare us here any more posts from him, since he already very badly failed the credibility and factual accuracy tests, etc. Of course this is also a PERFECT example of how and why this world goes down the drain, overpopulated as it is by ignorant, self-satisfied, know-nothings. Reply
WM January 23, 2016 at 6:52 am
Well, as Mr. Meier took photos of beautiful women performing on the Dean Martin show and tried to pass them off as ETs I think it’s safe to say he keeps his eye on the screens for otherworldly opportunities. As well illustrations from books of dinosaurs, early humans, supposed universe boundaries, secret space hardware around Mars, etc…. found their way onto the film contained within his camera, which was conveniently unable to focus at close proximity, thus producing “fuzzy” photos. A little fuzz around the edges to leave a little more room for the abandonment of quality critical thought?
Self-publishing with flexible dates, numbered passages with many blanks for future post-diction insertions, convenient “recollections” of previous “secret” conversations between Mr. Meier and his supposed cohorts retrospectively revealing great foresight and knowledge of present events and an endless editing and revision process from a highly organized and disciplined group of unquestioning believers makes the entire area of predictive proofs even more fraught with invalidity.
Try reading Mr. Meier’s “contact notes” with a psychologically oriented eye and see documents generated for the purpose of tremendously manipulating the group of people with whom he was, and in part still is involved. Having trouble getting people to obey and do things your way? Well, talk with the IHWH-evolved ET who just nearly always happens to agree with you in voluminous speeches only you can hear and suddenly the argument is resolved. That’s an old trick that priest classes have used for a long time now.
All for the grand plan or one man’s, perhaps enlightened – perhaps not so much, self interest? Motivation comes in many forms and desires in many directions.
This documentary by the way.
Mega-tsunami: Wave of Destruction
BBC Two 9.30pm 12 October 2000
Revisited: BBC Four 7pm 24 May 2003
http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/horizon/2000/mega_tsunami.shtml
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHWX220W9vUCheck out this site for high resolution versions of the more glaringly ludicrous “evidences”. http://www.billymeieruforesearch.com/
Michael, you’re too much the pitchman to find objectivity here. Rhythmic diatribes and fleet footed evasions don’t prove your case.
WM
January 23, 2016 at 7:02 amPerfectly to the post-diction point, Contact 481 where La Palma is spoken about is nothing but manipulation.
Comes out in late 2009 with hitherto unrevealed information about the potential Canary-Island sourced tsunami which Mr. Meier tries to pass off as having been revealed to him/by him in 1975. When in fact the information was made very public in the year 2000.
Pure flim-flam on Mr. Meier’s part I’d say. I wouldn’t be surprised if CR31 is “corrected” at some point to show that Mr. Meier did in fact talk about these matters in 1975.
I’m not quite sure what has gone on with this case. If it ever had any legitimacy then that faded to zero at some point and has continued as a fraud.
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September 4, 2017 at 1:53 PM #8619Daniel LeechGuestHello WM,
Michael Horn breaks all the FIGU rules by behaving the way he does and this has been an open secret for a very long time. The only way to get into it is to review the available content first hand and from the absolute source. But we have then another problem when we do that because they are not great showmen at FIGU and it even looks like they don’t want the world to know about it. FIGU have never really been aware of what Michael does behind the scenes in their name, but don’t investigate it because they just want the responsibility to go away. They’ve never been interested in making a normal amount of money out of it either which is why it’s not a great presentation and they’ve never had the time to tackle the normal aspects properly, like the time travel aspect which usually turns individuals off immediately.
September 4, 2017 at 3:15 PM #8620Daniel LeechGuestWM.
What if; there were humans from another world visiting the SSSC monthly and it was that the individuals there were not particularly media directors or media managers and the fact it was occurring before their eyes they just sort of assumed the world was being informed about it properly because of individuals such as MH. MH btw was just a coast to coast type presentation specialist with Randolph Winters in the early days, we’ve never been dealing with professional presentation specialists like say David Attenborough, lets just use this silly example, but its true, we don’t have these individuals interested because the claims have not been backed up by overwhelming evidence. I appreciate Michael and others fight strongly for, but we don’t have the support of the English-speaking worlds intellectuals because they’ve needed help with the wording and formatting of the information, but mostly because the interviews have been few and far between and the evidence has not been put into a robust media presentation which is saleable to the broadcast market. FIGU say this is because they don’t have the time to which is fair enough, but I am not confident they even want this or have ever wanted it. Ptaah once explained that they wanted to keep the community very small, and this makes quite a lot of sense really because they are the ones in control of the quantity of evidence available.
I’ve always argued and tried to understand then if this was all the case, then what was the goal and point. Apparently this is how FIGU has always been in every time epoch, in Jmmanuel’s time it relied on donations in the same way. Why not get the community working on a youtube channel designed specifically to target the million+ audience, and then deliver everything they wanted to give it to the world that way. Apparently in all other times they’ve never had the electronic means of communication available, and besides its all against their legislation to interfere with any communications project.
There is another thing that MH followed by FIGU in order of harshness have moderated individuals who announce the truth openly on their forums, even though what they have announced has been the truth, just what it is, and they basically just assassinate the characters of individuals they don’t want to hear from, yet shirk their responsibility to take on that task, they define the narrative. So individuals have resorted to making anonymous names and those that have stuck around longest now struggle to assess friend from foe. The community has outgrown itself very many times and especially on facebook that is clear, so a big scale media production by a professional organisation is now viable, but FIGU don’t want it or else they would have reached out to do it properly and taken the advice of individuals who know how to deal with it properly but haven’t.
So all in all I think for me its easy to see why so many individuals see this as an all out hoax. I think its a shame they’re not making a really great one-time package of evidence which ticks all the boxes and makes it undeniable. Most folk don’t want to hear this told by an individual but they want it presented as a public documentary which is reliable.
September 4, 2017 at 3:26 PM #8621Daniel LeechGuestSo I think anyone in FIGU or interested in FIGU needs to be working together to build up the production values of a media project more and more until its at the same production level standard of an actually commercially viable film. Because I think with such high claims that FIGU is making requires a very high tier media package which tells it properly, approaching the standards of a multi-million dollar film, and this is only possible as I said if they/we work together and over a long time. To me this should have been a feature of the FIGU community but it’s never been, its always been handed over to semi-pro’s that with respect have done a great job considering.
April 28, 2018 at 12:48 AM #9428Joanne of arcadiaGuestI WOULD LIKE TO READ Billy Meier Math. Does anyone know if any of the prophecies and predictions will ever happen? or whether Billy Meier will give more thorough details of an event one time? Do you know of Michael Horn has ever encouraged Billy Meier to reveal his mathematic formulas and explain what he has been working with so we can verify it for ourself or does he prefer to keep it vague so that we are doomd?
May 1, 2018 at 10:41 PM #9498Borg DailyGuestAll things in these latest prophecies and predictions point to anarchy, breakdown, etc. We would be quite foolish just to debate what year a certain manifestation happens, when we should be taking the warnings quite seriously…and using our own observations and thinking to assess the situation.
Joanne I’ve never said that it will happen in 2020 and I’ve never said that Meier did either. I certainly have said that I think we are in the early stages of an actual civil war shart. Look at the news, commentators who would’ve never said anything about a civil war are now routinely mentioning and sharting it.
Meier mentioned the coming civil war(s) in 1981 and 1987. What he said was, “…you already confided to me during my Great Trip in 1975, that, according to your probability calculations, the superpower USA could come to an end after 2020, if nothing in this country changes for the better by then.” USA means United States of America and most recently he said:
“16. The USA and the rulers of the USA shall be imperiled in the future in many ways, which arise from both governmental and non-governmental anti-government and anti-state actors, as well as from large parts of the United States population, so that the US population breaks up into different population-groups, the basic causes of which are already present, so that the USA is already separatized into various groups at the present time.”
There is a lot said in the above. If something happens to Trump as a result of some political/governmental crazies, that would further inflame the already progressing polarization.
“29. Even in the USA, the people will be dispossessed as a consequence of the global financial crisis, which shall become a pretext for deploying the military and police forces against the angry and partly also heavily armed population.”
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