Location of Solar System in Milky Way Galaxy


In 1970’s, Meier published the following article – Der Lageort unseres Sonnensystems / The location of our solar system – on pgs. 17-19 in the 24 pg. booklet, UFOs: Raumschiffe von fremden Welten / UFOs: Spaceships from Other Worlds:

Why the Earth is not visited in ‘large masses’ by extraterrestrial forms of life, but only in a certain small number, is because our solar system is practically an enclave of our Milky Way. As a very far-reaching system of a spiral arm of the Milky Way, we are outside of all usual flight paths of the extraterrestrials. The SOL system, as viewed from the Milky Way, represents something of a ‘Solitary system’ or ‘Forsaken System’.

Meier (pg. 18): Graphic representation of the Milky Way. For comparison, right below in circle is our Solar System as a remote enclave.

When the man of the Earth want to visit the nearest stars, then he would have to bridge a distance of 4.5 light years, for so far are the stars nearest to the Earth, the Alpha Centauri group and so on – 4.5 light-years correspond to a distance of about 38 trillion kilometers. For this distance to rush through, light needs to travel for 4.5 Earth years, at a speed of about 300,000 kilometers per second. With the speed of light we would need 4.5 years from the Earth to get to the first stars.

The same assertion that our Sun lies on the outermost fringes of the Milky Way, has also been reiterated few other times in the following contact reports.

Contact Report 235 (Saturday, February 3, 1990) – Semjase Kontakt Berichte Block 13, pg. 2441, 1996; Plejadisch-plejarische Kontaktberichte Band 6, pg. 203, 2005

95. The Earth, however, with the SOL system is truly so far from a galactic arm of the Milky Way that it is considered an enclave and has only sparse influx from other inhabited stars.
96. It is simply not interesting enough to be visited to a large extent by foreign forms of life.
97. In truth, it is practically always the same visitors from the vastness of the space which enters and leaves the Earth, as we do; foreigners may come to the earth two to three times a year.

Contact Report 236 (Thursday, April 26, 1990) – Semjase Kontakt Berichte Block 13, pg. 2465, 1996; Plejadisch-plejarische Kontaktberichte Band 6, pg. 262, 2005

204. The Sol system, outside the Milky Way, constitutes something like an enclave because it floats as a single system far outside a spiral arm.

Contact Report 238 (Saturday, May 18, 1991) – Semjase Kontakt Berichte Block 13, pg. 2545, 1996; Plejadisch-plejarische Kontaktberichte Band 6, pg. 407, 2005

643. The SOL system exists in the outermost realms of a spiral arm, and forms, so to speak, an enclave, and therefore the SOL system is one of the oldest systems in the galaxy.

Contact Report 251 (Friday, February 3, 1995) Semjase Kontakt Berichte Block 15, pg. 2823, 2000; Plejadisch-plejarische Kontaktberichte Band 7, pg. 328, 2005

(..) The true benefactors, those opposed to the killing, were able to rescue a great many genetically-manipulated beings whom they had divided into several groups – in spite of the many counter measures of those who wanted to kill. As was previously explained, two groups of peoples settled on the other side of the galaxy, while the remainder of the peoples found new homes in the SOL system on Mars and Malona; subsequently, several thousand degenerate, genetically-altered individuals were deported to Earth. The benefactors knew even then that the people shipped there could not remain in this solar system forever but that sometime later they would have to depart for other destinations. The benefactors were fully aware that this remote system’s sun was a waning star even then, and it was specifically selected since the Sirius Intelligences and the “creator-overlords” who were willing to kill the refugees, did not suspect that this region with its dying sun would be a candidate for new settlements of the “degenerates” and “god’s workers”, as they were called by the “creator-overlords”. For this reason, the benefactors placed vast distances between the genetically-manipulated people’s home planets in the Sirius regions and the SOL system, as well as the distant system beyond the galaxy, so as to protect those living on them from those who threatened to kill and eliminate them. The selected hideaways were chosen therefore for their extreme remoteness and their position at the fringe of the galaxy. (..)


Now, is it really the case, as Meier and the Plejaren ETs explain, that our Solar system lies in the outermost fringes of the Milky Way (for a moment ignoring the galaxy’s shape)?

Clearly not!

The NASA illustration depicted below quite evidently indicates that our Sun is nowhere near the outermost fringes of the Milky Way (whose diameter is around 30 kpc or 100,000 ly), but lies very much inside the Milky Way, about half of the way out. And to be exact, in the Orion spiral arm at around 8 kpc or 26,000 light years distance from the Supermassive Black Hole at the center of the galaxy.

Location of our Sun in Milky Way Galaxy, ©NASA

And according to the most recent 2015 estimate, the size of the Milky Way is found to be around 150,000 light years across. If this is true, then this means that our Sun sits about 1/3 of the way out from the center to the edge of the galaxy, as shown below.

Two rings of stars once thought outside our galaxy might actually be part of it and would extend the disk 50 percent farther from its edge. © Dana Berry/Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute

Meier/ET’s graphical representation on the location of our Sun system being far outside the Milky Way, doesn’t even concur with any of the old measurements formulated by scientists since the beginning of the 20th century, or for that matter not even with the observations of the ancient astronomers several centuries or millennia ago. This is because, if our Sun system lies far outside the Milky way as Meier asserts, then there will be at least three major noticeable differences (credit for points 1 and 3 goes to the astro/geo-physicist Stuart Robbins):

  1. The Milky Way currently appears as a band all around us in the night sky i.e. it covers an angular size of 360 degrees in the sky. However, from the perspective of Meier’s location, this angular size will be greatly reduced to just about 160 degrees in the sky.
  2. Also, the stars and the constellations they make in the sky would be vastly different to the ones our ancients had observed and recorded through out the history.
  3. And when looking in the direction opposite to the center of the galaxy, probably we will be able to see more objects that are farther away because stars, gas, dust, etc. that are obstructing our view within our galaxy would not be in the way.

And coming to the shape of the galaxy, it is not clear whether Meier provided us with his/ET’s “accurate” representation of the Milky Way or just a rough sketch. If it is indeed an “accurate” representation, many stark differences can be immediately found from visually comparing it with the shape our scientists have come up after over a century of observations and refinements – a large barred spiral galaxy with four major arms and and least two minor arms or spurs. The many disparities are quite self-evident.


We don’t know how or what awakened Meier’s common sense, decades later, he began to publish relatively plausible or precise information regarding the location of our Sun. Meier, who once positioned our Sun being at the outermost fringes of the Milky Way galaxy has later pinpointed the actual location – Orion’s spiral arm – and modified his later contact reports accordingly.

Contact Report 224 (Thursday, July 7th, 1988) – Plejadisch-plejarische Kontaktberichte Band 5, pgs. 427, 2004

..for example, in our spiral galaxy, in which we exist with our solar system in the outer regions of a spiral arm, and to be sure, in the so-called Orion spiral arm.

Contact Report 230 (Wednesday, October 11, 1989) – Plejadisch-plejarische Kontaktberichte Band 6, pg. 11, 2005

Then again something else: you once mentioned that ours is arranged in a spiral arm of our galaxy, but our solar system does not remain constant at the same place and therefore also affect other spiral arms of the Milky Way or move through them. (..)

Not only was the region of our Sun’s location (Orion spiral arm) amended but also the distance from our Sun system to the center of the Milky Way. Meier, who first published this distance to be around 53,000 light years (ly) in 1979, later in 2004, changed this number to a relatively modest 35,000 ly, about 20,000 ly less. However, as mentioned earlier, the accurate distance determined by scientists is around 27,000 ly, a difference of around 8 ly compared to Meier’s.

Contact Report 69 (Friday, December 10, 1976) – Semjase Kontakt Berichte, 1st ed. Block 14, 1979; Semjase Kontakt Berichte, 2nd ed. Block 6, 1988

(…) But now something else, namely about the center of our galaxy. If I remember correctly, then once Asket told me this was around 50,000 light years distance in our SOL-system, while our science says this is only 30,000 light years.
98. The galaxial center, or the galaxial central sun, is at a distance of 53,000 light years, when SOL (Note: Solar System) is taken for the starting point of measure.

Contact Report 224 (Thursday, July 7th, 1988) – Plejadisch-plejarische Kontaktberichte Band 5, pgs. 427, 2004

(…) The center of the black hole of our Milky Way, also according to Ptaah’s explanation, is located about 35,000 light years away from the SOL system in the constellation of Sagittarius, while we are located with our solar system far outside in the so-called Orion spiral arm…

Contact Report 236 (Thursday, April 26, 1990) – Plejadisch-plejarische Kontaktberichte Band 6, pg. 262, 2005

Our scientists of astronomy say that the central Milky Way sun is about 45,000 light years away from us. But you’ve explained to me that this is an erroneous calculation and mistaken assumption, as the real distance amounts to 10,000 light years fewer.
203. Our distance data are certain.
204. The Sol system, outside the Milky Way, constitutes something like an enclave because it floats as a single system far outside a spiral arm.
205. The distance to calculate from there to the middle of the central sun is 35,002 light years.

Isn’t it ironic–and comical–that Meier in an old contact report (CR 69) blamed  scientists for an erroneous distance value of 30,000 ly, to then later (in CR 224 and CR 236) contradict himself by defending a proximate value of 35,000 ly? For more debunking on this discrepancy between the distances from our Sun system to the Milky Way’s center in different Contact Reports, refer to this and this page.


The above analysis quite evidently reveals the hallmarks of a shoddy coverup attempt made by a naive and scientifically illiterate person – like Meier with a sixth grade education – to cover up his fraud of fabricating Contact Reports!

We are very curious to see if Meier retained the same graphic representation of our Sun system and Milky Way in his newly printed UFOs: Raumschiffe von fremden Welten booklet. We suspect that either the illustration (and text) has been amended or the entire article deleted. If any of you have this booklet, kindly share the information with us.

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