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January 23, 2017 at 7:02 AM #7785
I was a passive member of FIGU for 2 years I paid 750 USD/year for this. The group was met in person by me in November 2009.
The plane fare was 1,700 USD unfortunately I knew that this trip was useless. All persons there were paranoid and exhibited in conversations evidence of hypnosis. Very disappointing.
After this I saw the Methusalem Meier video and became an acquaintance of his. Living in Arizona twice he offered to meet in Flagstaff Arizona.
I have extensively read the SETH MATERIAL and also have read some German books by Billy. In Der Psyche the style is very jagged, it starts and stops abruptly often. It was a jarring experience to read this.
The Intro to the Meditation was in a sense stolen material, from commonly found authors and very difficult to understand. The book on hygiene was also not written in anything but cultish occult distractions – all questions were not answered when I asked for assistance. His PR persons are inadequate in the English language and worse purposely so. I had certain privileges being a member and some were outright denied to me. I also read the first 10 Spirit Lessons. I was to be partnered with another member so as to combine our skills in understanding this. This was denied. I asked for other members’ contact information in any country and my own and was met with suspicion.
Phila Stauber was not helpful as a staff member even in person. Christian Frehner was the entire time found me to be an offense.
After talking to Methi Meier over time I found that Billy Meier put all his kids into Juvenile detention for 3 1/2 years each one. In Methi’s case this was a dreary 12 years involvement he said.
My problem with Methi Meier is that he is insincere and says he believes to a degree his father. Unfortunately he is playing two sides. His father is violent physically abusive at times. A wife beater as well.
Coincidentally my brother’s girl friend Karol J. Licht in the 1990s underwent a very similar car wreck of the same kind and left her as well, in a very bad way.
I have also read a good amount of the books of the SETH CHANNELLINGS By Jane Roberts.
The style used in these is very similar using the phrases and way of wording,used in Meier’s published materials. the Book ‘The Life of Emir’ channeled by Roberts and looking at it in one way is – The Life of E. Meier.
I interviewed his neighbors many who were not feeling well about living next to this person. At the local pub when asked who I was with they all told me he had a bad reputation locally.
Over time I found Meier does indeed have some skills but it all used in a devious way to promote his own safety which he is fanatical about.
His sons were auto mechanics one son Atlantis uses pot [forbidden by the rules] and it just appeared to me that Methusalem was picked on by his father – you’d suppose any occupation other than the dangerous and toxic mechanic would be encouraged by the father. Any parent would want a decent living for his offsprings. Not so. Mathis tried to start a repair shop asked his father for $18 000 loan and asked if he should take out flood insurance and Billy said not at all you don’t ever need that. As soon as the shop was tooled and ready a once in 100 year flood wrecked it all. For not repaying the 18K Billy tried very hard to sue his youngest son. Which Methi found with a lawyer under Swiss law is not legal in family.
Methi actually married at 16 is a great grandfather the grand kids tend to be supported by Billy. The fact of Billy’s famous COLDNESS is probably why Methi found it necessary to marry [early, and manny times]. Billy’s ex wife is viewed always as a traitor. Bill had a ‘companion’ for a short time Eva Beri who escaped and never returned. Billy Meir is not Homophobic at all rather a Homophilic person. This is from long observation of him.
In 1975 Billy newly wed a new father on welfare somehow obtained 250 000 cash USD to purchase a wrecked farm house and land.
The income per year of FIGU is near 75 000 USD/ per year with about 300 paying members. FIGU.ORG is non profit and yet sells products since it’s start with the WEB in the 90s. Always is a commercial website.
- This topic was modified 7 years, 3 months ago by Wayne Eligur.
January 23, 2017 at 7:34 AM #7787In the early 2000’s there was a husband and wife team Vivienne Legg and Dyson Devine in Australia who were loyal part of the forum in FIGU. For years did donate many long well done translations of Meier’s Contact Notes. About 2008 there arose a debate and a long one with Michael Horn vs. Dyson. It involved Meier’s credibility.
This became a true believer [Horn] against Dyson. Dyson brought up the fact in a major work and in fact all of Meier’s writings a definite prejudice against women in general. Using insulting slang and at times counted up the instances in only one work of Meiers the Book OM.
In this time these Australians had a website called Gaiaguys.net in there posted various slanderous but mainstream local news items pertaining to the Knights Templar the total infection of the Australian government with child sacrificing Satanistic members in addition the Catholic Church in AU is rampant with child prostitution. This was posted routinely. In time the government wanted them to cease and desist. In a series of warnings. Then in a reading Pittah advised to take down this website and hide out. But too late the couple were kidnapped and taken across country detained interrogated for weeks. They then were released to find a way to return home without any assistance. This happened more than once. In time all of The Dyson’s translations and Dyson were slowly quietly disowned. The couple not in the best sorts escaped to Tasmania. Never heard of them again.
On Gaiaguys.net Dyson told me he had to respond daily to 300 emails these asking for help; some for a life time of Catholic Priest abuse; sometimes it does go on for a lifetime. It was a full time job acting as counselor.
I appreciated his help and was for many years in the same line of fire from my own USA government. I found him helpful.
I am now trying to get Methusalem to legally find his father incompetent psychologically and in all finances turn all resources over to his family. Who I read have no part in the inheritance as there is none. There is only a foundation to house all Meier’s works. The property of FIGU is roughly valued at well over 12 million USD.
January 23, 2017 at 7:46 PM #7788Ed V.GuestThanks for telling your experiences. There’s an interview with Methusalem Meier on YouTube where he speaks of the things you told. I was a little shocked to find out that Methi was beaten by his father and carries psychological trauma with him till this day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19qYgUhkM5MJanuary 25, 2017 at 10:49 PM #7790Wayne: “Bill had a ‘companion’ for a short time Eva Beri who escaped and never returned.”
Meier married (not legally) her and gave birth to a daughter Selina in 1997. I think he is still living with her there. If you have been passive member between 2009 and 2011 and have visited FIGU in that period, you must have easily known and verified this.
January 26, 2017 at 9:19 PM #7793Wayne EligurGuestDid not know anything but met that person as she was leaving the center. The baby was now about 10 years old Autistic and a pretty bad case too. Screaming non stop had to be almost carried everywhere. Funny because later I learned that this AUTISM is basically an American problem; as well as it afflicts 3.5 times as mean boys as girls. It just is not anything for me than another part of the nightmare of that time 2009 when both parents passed away and the entire world was also it seems.
August 31, 2017 at 4:24 PM #8600Daniel LeechGuestHello all,
Wayne Eligur, Hello, you write some interesting things I didn’t know about that, I just want to tell of my experience of the same things. Some points below to make reading easy.
1. Regarding Eva Bieri, Mahigitam said it above, I said hello to her July 2017 in person there. Things change all the time with everyone in any organisation anywhere.
2. Regarding Money/economy. The Swiss economy, difficult to understand how its not undermined by normal businessmen offering opportune deals and in the middle of Europe, I agree. Everyone gets paid much more so everything can then cost more, but doesn’t have to, its just good business. I didnt know about that 75K USD, but now I know, to me that represents a reasonably cheap, equitable, efficient running of everything they do with little wastages, it symbolises they;re not being unreasonable, and the reason I can say that is because comparatively consumer Prices in Switzerland are generally (not time specific) 82.87% higher than in United Kingdom and 79.60% higher than in United States with groceries prices 133.05% higher than United Kingdom and 80.63% than United States. So a simple chocolate bar made of same sourced ingredients in the UK or US is say $£1 in Switzerland its $£2-3.
3. Atlantic flights have apparently fallen 50% in 3 decades. It depends on the airline, which airport one flies into and at what time including the specific date. Using google we can pick and compare the time, date, airline, airport and compare the interconnecting transport costs and weigh it all up. £400 is my all-in upper limit when traversing the Atlantic, just saying, but only because I know how to go around the entire world for that kind of money.
4. Many would attempt to sue their son too, IF they were men and if they had that kind of independence type relationship with each other, and if in that case they needed to be taught a lesson about law and insurance for their own good because everything was getting too lovey and comfortable between them, fair enough to me.
5. Autism is what it is as you say as we know.
6. I think Billy had help from the Plejaren with the initial buy in 1975. Thats for Mahigitam to investigate.
7. They don’t speak english natively, never have, never will, the way they explain things is sometimes different and how it translates is sometimes different and how they/him/her/whoever talks is differentey everytime.
8. About the coldness, paranoid behaviours, unsure, lack of hospitality, smileyness etc, I put a lot of that down to the negativity on the internet and in any reports about it all shared around which feedback itself and which has progressively grinded down the community, along with the identity anonymity, hostility, backstabbing, theft, unpleasant, distasteful, dishonourable exchanges etc. That happens in any community, its no different here. What has made it worse is that the information is abnormal, about weird subjects, niche industry, tiny community, fringe matters etc and the baggage brought over from the overlapping communities, the UFO community, the religion community, the ghost ghoul spacey weirdy wild community the whatever sloshy sciencey language community. Then on top of all that you have all the nations of the world coming together in a big sluice of weird wild randomness. So I think in all the SSSC is incredibly normal and relaxed under the circumstances.
9. I credit dyson as my introduction to the content, having translated it, and for being Australian (I am English), the was Australians do things, no secret, often sits better with a certain breed of the English, I make no concealment about. North America typically does things differently, and that is ok, look we are all different, and that is what is making the world interesting. The USA individuals do tend to create community better I tend to agree with that. The Swiss don’t do things the same as its done in North America, I find that all fair enough.10. For me a lot of the stuff is often done very poorly, like for example with Methi and this crummy exopolitics video to me, its often amateur and all very poor quality, that is just my opinion, my opinion is that they ought to start taking more a pride over what they are doing and doing it properly and take a better amount of time over it all. They probably need a media manager type individual to fight the battle of bumping up the quality, refilming things, recuting that edit, redoing until its right etc etc. But that is not how FIGU do things, the info itself takes the centre stage, they don’t care so much about the presentational qualities like the English speaking world does, and they do it all differently as I said. Plus I don’t know why this has turned into a media circus anyway. I suppose Billy could have been doing very good interviews in the garden every month in as many languages as he could to cool down the attention he was getting etc, but its a non-profit organisation we don’t have a million dollar budget to get the right individuals in to get it all right etc. Its also not a hotel, though that would have also been a prime idea to build a big hotel on the land so that the world could have come to visit him and they could have profited of many many different aspects, they never did.
Thanks I enjoyed reading the comments made on the forums.
Bye.
October 17, 2017 at 2:06 PM #8741Owen TruthmarrionGuestThank you for sharing Wayne Eligur.
March 9, 2018 at 12:44 AM #9176ufoteenagedirtbagbabyGuestAt least you guys in USA and Canada are “kinda safe” in this matter, under condition you don’t live in a highly densed metropola; compared to Europe, where pretty much on every corner brothel there is some tech. / electrical / EMF emanating structure because of high population density (2nd in world) and whole industry and life-work style is emotionally moving to a total nymph dependency on newer and newer technologies. Such a pace, normal human being can’t catch up with. Not even cornheads who are the brightest in their professions – IT, telecommunications, electrical engineering etc. Well, at least not those who want to live a happy and a healthy life. I agree technology is something we can’t avoid, and is very helpful, but I don’t think Tesla and other pioneers imagined such a world. In my opinion, this is total insanity. Again, overpopulation here plays immense role and supply-demand of people who are sexually embracing this kind of false progress with their arms and legs wide. I’ve been on seminars where adults, leading people on their universities are expressing their discontent “why aren’t we already living in a Star Trek world-reality!?”, and I thought to myself, hey guys slow down a bit… to come to the point, in my opinion, a deviation between consciousness-development and technological-development is becoming way too high. This kind of technocracy, for lack of a better expression, is really dominating more and more and an average individual can’t keep track of it. This not a way to live. I’ve heard such stupid statements from people of academic titles, that my stomach is getting really sour and I’m an IT engineer by profession.
About the population density USA/Canada vs Europe:
Canada
Popolution: 35,151,728 mill.
Area: 9,984,670 km2USA
Population: 325,719,178 mill.
Area: 9,833,520 km2Europe
Population: 741,447,158 mill.
Area: 10,180,000 km2April 7, 2018 at 12:54 AM #9301TechnodGuestIts crazy isn’t it dyson, in light of some very credible info such as metaresearch, the best medicament for such infection peddled by the wannabes from such sites as bvalphaserver is all they can soothingly apply to the already pusy wounds, I understand your sentiment more than ever being in these type of forums, especially where the cockroaches seem to congregate to have their lively feed of rotting carcass.
Btw knowing a bit more about you from the radar article was such a revelation, least of all your experiences during your tenure there of UFOs, gees Dyson, I know we may create our destiny but some things just cannot be preordainly dismissed as predestiny for some people, least of all your spirit form.
PS. Can you send vivienne my thanks and gratitude, often she is the forgotten other half more often overlooked but in my case anyway, seeing as you are other half of each other, why, I naturally thank both of you even if I’ve been thanking one of you.
February 1, 2019 at 3:11 AM #9904BodybodynoGuestCall the police – walking on the moon – hit it
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