Analysis of Contact Reports 101 – 196


CR 108 & 113 (1978)


Deaths of Pope Paul VI, Pope John Paul I and II

Contact Date: Contact Report 108, Thursday, June 1, 1978, 6:31 PM
Verifiable Publications: Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 3, pg. 167, 2004
Type of Claim: not 100%
Corroborated Article(s) None

Plejadisch-plejarische Kontaktberichte Block 3, pg. 167, 2004

Billy:
Ptaah, in the last few days, I came across something that makes me think. Actually, I already figured out the results for it last year, but these weren’t then mentioned in the predictions for the year 1978 because I thought it would be too dangerous.

Ptaah:
1. Then express yourself about it.
2. What about this depresses you, and what does it concern?

Billy:
This doesn’t depress me, and it concerns Pope Paul VI. Last year, my probability calculations yielded that he would have to die this year. Now, this calculation has simply bothered me recently, which is why I tried to get more exact and more precise data, and through this, I encountered a very specific date and a very specific time. Now, I just wonder if my calculation doesn’t have any mistakes and if everything is actually right.

Ptaah:
3. Then give me the data.

Billy:
Okay, see here, I wrote it down there: the day of death is the 6th of August, 1978. I’ve calculated the time, with the result of 20:40 hours and 13 seconds. The death, according to my calculations, should occur by a heart attack, in which case the body will give up its function as a result of an oxygen deficiency.

Ptaah:
4. You were very thorough in your calculations because you gave me the same data that we ourselves already fathomed years ago through an analysis by apparatus.
5. But do you also know the place where the spirit of the man will leave the body?

Billy:
If my calculations are right, then, and if I describe the place correctly, then it must be the Pope’s summer residence, Castel Gandolfo.

Ptaah:
6. That is also of absolute correctness, but say nothing about that and also explain nothing about that to the members of your group.
7. It could lead to dangerous effects.
8. It was also very wise of you, that you mentioned nothing about these matters in the annual predictions.

Billy:
I thought that myself. But I also concealed other things.

Contact Date: Contact Report 113, Sunday, August 6, 1978, 8:31 PM
Verifiable Publications: Semjase Kontakt Berichte, 1st ed. Vol. 18, 1980
UET-WS Vol. 18, pg. 1769, 1979-1980’s
Semjase Kontakt Berichte, 2nd ed. Vol. 7, pg. 1390-1392, 1988
Prophetien und Voraussagen, pg. 92, 1996
Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 3, pg. 204-206, 2004
Type of Claim: not 100%
Corroborated Article(s) None

Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 3, pg. 204-206, 2004

Billy:
It is on account of the new Pope in Rome: when will this twit be elected, who will he be, and how long will he remain in his office, etc.?

Quetzal:
101. It would have surprised me very much if you wouldn’t have raised this question.
102. Well then, I will give you information about that, but you must conceal this until the data have been fulfilled.
103. At most, you may let it be reported that the new Pope won’t exercise his office very long.
104. The new Pope will be determined by means of a very short voting period and by only 111 cardinals, who will appoint a cardinal by the name of Luciani as the new Pope by the conclave on Saturday, the 26th of August.
105. His new name will be Pope John Paul I.
106. As brief as the time for his appointment will be, so brief will his term of office also be.
107. After the mentioning of his name in the conclave, it will then take exactly 33 minutes before he is appointed as the new Pope by the conclave.
108. This 33-minute will also consultation time be exactly the number of days, during which he will exercise his office as Pope, then to finish his life on the 28th of September, 1978, at exactly 11:07 PM, without anyone being with him; therefore, he will part from this world alone.
109. His death, however, will not be a natural one but a forced one, which will in turn be caused by a poison that stops heart activity, which then gives the impression of a heart attack.
110. The new Pope will be assassinated because he will shock the aristocratic rule of the Vatican and even horrify it by his behavior and his lifestyle.
111. But so will he also make deadly enemies among the cardinals and many others, for he will break the tradition of the Pope’s coronation with a papal crown and only allow a fairly simple ceremony.
112. But the new Pope will be too people-friendly in the eyes and thoughts of many authoritative Vatican officials, which isn’t good for the Vatican because it would lose power through this.
113. So already a few hours after his appointment, a conspiracy will be forged, which will have the goal of removing this Pope John Paul I very quickly from his office, and to be sure, by an assassination of the same.

Billy:
Man, that is some piece of news. But, how will it be, then? Will it be just like with Pope John XXIII, or whatever he was called? Will this murder also remain undiscovered and unpunished?

Semjase:
40. Unfortunately yes, because the power of the Catholic Church is great, especially that of the Vatican.

Billy:
One should finally clamp down on these dirty swines.

Quetzal:
114. That would be a very difficult and hopeless undertaking and, moreover, deadly for those who would try this.

Billy:
Oh well, then these dirty slobs can continue to putter around unscathed.

Quetzal:
115. That is, unfortunately, of correctness.
116. But now, hear what I have to explain to you even further, in reference to other concerns.
117. About this, my friend, you may also not speak publicly but only in the internal group circle, and that for as long as the time has fulfilled itself.

Billy:
The case is clear. You can calmly entrust me with your knowledge.

Quetzal:
118. What I have to explain to you is of great importance.

Billy:
Nevertheless, I will be silent like a grave, my son. If it is necessary, I’ll even take my knowledge with me to the grave, but you know that.

Quetzal:
119. That is of correctness.

Billy:
Then why are you still hesitating?

Quetzal:
120. I just want to be sure.
121. It concerns the successor of the coming Pope John Paul I.
122. His successor will be, after long centuries, a non-Italian, so he will thereby initiate the time and circumstances for that fateful papal election, which will be responsible for the fulfillment of the ancient prophecies.
123. This third to last Pope coming in October will, faithful to the evil determination, stand in the same star sign as his predecessor who will still assume his office this month, Pope John Paul I, the “Moon Face.”
124. The Pope coming in the month of October will be a native of Poland, John Paul II, the “Sun Face;” nevertheless, his face will gradually resemble more of a vicious crater landscape than the Sun.
125. This John Paul II, who is called by the true name of Karol Wojtyla, will – as the third to last Pope before the great turning point of the Earth world – act as the 264th Pope and Vatican ruler, while malicious intrigues are built on his back, and he himself will build up the guilt for the fact that Israel can enter into an alliance with the Vatican.
126. After his death – which will already be in the near future, but I may not mention the date of death and its circumstances, etc. officially but may only tell you alone, so namely on the 13th of May, 1981, if nothing changes, which is possible.
(On the 13th of May, 1981, Pope John Paul II was to have departed from life by an assassination attack of a Turk by the name of Aga Acsa. The attack did, indeed, take place; nevertheless, the Pope remained alive by certain unforeseen circumstances. The effects of the circumstances yielded that the assassin shooter was pushed when firing, and therefore, the shot wasn’t fatal. Thus, a slight nudge influenced the course of all world events – Explanation from Florena on the 23rd of January, 2003.)
127. Then another Pope will make his appearance, over whom the human beings of the Earth will wonder, as this will have also already been the case with his two predecessors, only that it will then occur in his case to a greater extent.
128. When this one is removed from the world by death on ______, the Pope with the number 5 will then come into his papal election value of the world end time, so he, as the 266th Vatican ruler, will finally initiate the events of the great world turning point, thereby losing his seat in the Vatican, however, which will be completely destroyed.
129. But I will tell you more about all these things and in relation to other events at our next contacts, but you then have to guard this just as carefully as the data given to you now, which you may, at the earliest, make available to the public when Pope John Paul I has been murdered and when also Pope John Paul II has been officially announced as such, that is, as murdered by a shot attempt.
130. You may only speak of this in the strictly internal and trustworthy circle.

Billy:
The case is clear. I will hold myself to it, which you know very well, nevertheless.

Quetzal:
131. I know, that is of correctness, but I still had to reassure myself again because too much depends on the fact that everything happens in such a way as everything is predetermined.
132. If these things would become known too early, namely by letting the facts be revealed, then the determinations wouldn’t fulfill themselves, which they must do, however; otherwise, the Earth would then be completely destroyed, namely through culpable and premature changes by the human beings.
133. Changes may only occur through the change of the human beings and the situations and events resulting from them in their logical sequence.

Billy:
Ah, I understand. So let’s speak no more of it.

Analysis

From the verses and the nature of the content, it becomes obvious that this sensitive information was only intended for Meier and among his closely trusted group (more on this later) and not for the public. Everything mentioned in the above reports actually happened and can be verified (though the contact report has been published only after the events occurred), except the causes and circumstances of death.

However what is interesting here is that a verse (mentioned below) from Contact Report 113 was altered in the latest publication (PPKB 3, 2004) in such a way that it alters the original conveyed meaning of the forecast by including the possibility of failure, which however in the earlier publications is not the case. This forecast made by Quetzal in the year 1978 about the murder and death of Pope John Paul II in 1981, obviously didn’t come through as he survived the murder attempt and died of age in 2005.

In older publications – Semjase Kontakt Berichte, 1st ed. Vol 18, 1980, UET-WS Vol 18, pg. 1772, 1979-1980’s and Prophetien und Voraussagen, pg.93, 1996 – verse 123 is given as:

123. Nach seinem Ableben, das bereits schon in naher Zukunft sein wird, wobei ich jedoch die Todesdaten und deren Umstände usw. nicht offiziell nennen, sondern nur dir allein bekanntgeben darf, so nämlich am . . . . . . wird ein weiterer Papst in Erscheinung treten, über den sich die Menschen der Erde wundern werden, wie dies auch schon bei seinen zwei Vorgängern der Fall gewesen sein wird, nur dass es bei ihm in stärkerem Masse sein wird.

123. After his death, which will already be in the near future, but I may not mention the date of death and its circumstances, etc. officially but may only tell you alone, so namely on the 13th of May, 1981, another Pope will make his appearance, over whom the human beings of the Earth will wonder, as this will have also already been the case with his two predecessors, only that it will then occur in his case to a greater extent.

In Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 3, 2004, this long verse is chopped into two sentences/verses and the text is changed:

126. Nach seinem Ableben, das bereits schon in naher Zukunft sein wird, wobei ich jedoch die Todesdaten und deren Umstände usw. nicht offiziell nennen, sondern nur dir allein bekanntgeben darf, so nämlich am 13. Mai 1981, wenn sich nichts ändert, was möglich ist.
127. Dann wird ein weiterer Papst in Erscheinung treten, über den sich die Menschen der Erde wundern werden, wie dies auch schon bei seinen zwei Vorgängern der Fall gewesen sein wird, nur dass es bei ihm dann in stärkerem Masse in Erscheinung tritt.

126. After his death, which will already be in the near future, but I may not mention the date of death and its circumstances, etc. officially but may only tell you alone, so namely on the 13th of May, 1981, if nothing changes, which is possible.
127. Then Another Pope will make his appearance, over whom the human beings of the Earth will wonder, as this will have also already been the case with his two predecessors, only that it will then occur in his case to a greater extent.

The structure of the original sentence is: “After his death (..) another new Pope will make his appearance..” whereas the structure of the PPKB version is: “After his death (..). Then a new Pope will make his appearance.” It appears as if the PPKB 3 verse 126 is a (poorly) edited version of the earlier version of the verse, rather than a more accurate version of what was actually said, since the PPKB 3 verse 126 is an incomplete sentence. The original verse gave the impression that the death of the pope would happen with very high certainty but the later editing gives the impression of ‘downplaying’ that certainty level that was originally expressed in the verse.

In Wendelle Steven’s UFO Contact from the Pleiades: A Supplementary Investigation Report, pg. 493-497 (1989) and also in an International UFO Congress lecture (The Meier case update, 2006), he mentioned that Meier has informed him, Lee Elders and Tom Welsch on the “real” circumstances behind the death of Pope Paul VI and also about the names and dates of the coming two Popes, about which Wendelle allegedly made a note. He even says that he has shared this information with a German journalist from the ‘Blick‘ daily newspaper at that time. However this information on the two successive popes (Pope John Paul I and Pope John Paul II) that were going to be elected after Pope Paul VI was never published before the aforementioned events occurred. We have written to Lee Elders to comment on these claims of Wendelle on February 11, 2015 but so far we didn’t receive any response.

If this information would have been verifiably published before the events occurred, it would have been very strong evidence for Meier’s ability to forecast future events. Since it was never verifiably published before the events occurred, we are left with testimonies but no definitive proof these prophecies were authentic. Since there are indications that Wendelle Stevens’ recounts of at least some events during his investigation into the Meier case were inaccurate and contradictory to other people’s accounts (although not necessarily on purpose) there is reason to doubt whether his recount of this event is accurate.

CR 115 (1978)


Background information

UFO Contact from the Pleiades: A Preliminary Investigation Report, pg. 88-89, 1982:

“Meier is occasionally given advance notice of a series of events which make up an “event clock” by which he can tell the sequence of things to come and where we are at any point in event time. Linear time is elastic in terms of event time. The events will occur as scheduled no matter what we do. We can only advance or retard them in terms of linear time….and we can increase or decrease the effects of these events on us by our own actions. Events mark confluences in time which affect many other things. Some such events which have recently passed are, the overthrow of the Shah in Iran, The Chinese attack on North Vietnam, The Russian invasion of Afghanistan, The death of Marshall Tito, The abdication of queen Wilhelmina of the Netherlands, The discovery of the 14th and 15 moons of Jupiter in 1980, etc. The next markers in event time are being closely watched. So far, all of the events I have been able to monitor have happened right on schedule and in proper sequence.

I have had the contact notes for 19 October 1978 in my possession since 9 March 1979, since before many of the items just mentioned had occurred. During this time I showed them to two trusted people, Mr. Rudy Pestalozzi and Mr. O. Richard Norton. This paper listed those events in their correct order and extends the predictions into our near future. We have promised to observe the ban on release of any information on future events until they happen. The last predicted event marking a confluence in time, affecting many other things, was the predicted “ignominious death of the Shah” closely following the death of Marshall Tito. That paper describes the next events in their approximate order of future occurrence. Their time may be accelerated or retarded by mass mind influence.”

UFO Contact from the Pleiades: A Supplementary Investigation Report, pg. 497, 1989:

“If that were the only positive evidence we had of something phenomenal going on, it could be enough. There were many others however which did not involve us directly, such as the sudden death of General Francisco Franco, El Caudillo of Spain, and the Death of Marshal Tito of Yugoslavia almost ten weeks before the life support machines were turned off. There was considerable evidence that these events were known by the Pleiadians before they happened , the most recent being the asassaination of Indira Ghandi by her own security guards, and the immediate appointment of her son to succeed her, a preposterous idea at the time this was revealed more than 7 years ago. And there were others since we ended that part of the report in 1982.”

Messages from the Pleiades, Vol 2, pg. 351-352, 1990:

“… in a contact on 19 October 1978, a discussion of detailed, prophesied events came up.

We jump forward here to that contact, at this time, because the time of taking down the Petale Prophesies is the time of these present contacts in 1976. Also because I was able to personally observe the outworking of some of those prophesies in 1979 when I was in Europe. One of these was the invasion of North Vietnam by China, another was the storming of the Iranian Embassy in London by London Bobbies, and a third was the abdication of Queen Wilhelmina of the Netherlands in favor of her daughter Beatrix, all of which I had been told to expect by Eduard Meier before the event actually happened.

In a discussion of this in his house on 9 March 1979, Mr. Meier offered to show me his restricted notes on prophesies that had already come to pass.

Wanting evidence for myself, I asked for copies of the pages listing only the events mentioned which had already occurred. I was fully aware of Meier’s promise to both Semjase & the Petale Sphere, not to reveal events before their time.

He handed the notes to Eva and sent her out of the room to make copies of those pages for me. While she was doing that, Meier was called to the telephone. While he was still talking on the phone, Eva came back with the copies and handed them to me, which I stuck in my briefcase. When Meier came back from the telephone, he asked me if I had been given the copy pages, and I said yes and patted my briefcase.

When I looked at the notes later, I discovered that Eva had misunderstood and gave me more pages than Meier intended, because there were prophesies that had not yet been fulfilled. I decided to keep Meier’s promise not to release information on events before their time, but when I got home I allowed two good friends of mine to read the notes in full for future confirmation. Those two men were Major Rudolph Pastalozzi, USAF (Ret.), and Mr. O. Richard Norton, former director of the Flandreau Planetarium at the University of Arizona in Tuscon.

I have now decided to release those few pages from the 115th Contact on 19 October 1978 for your appreciation.”

All of the above information clearly suggests that we have got 3 witnesses who, by March 1979, have allegedly seen the prophetic and the scientific information typed down by Meier from Contact Report 115 (verses up to 97; see MFP, Vol 2, pg. 361), that haven’t yet occurred or realized respectively.

Number of Jupiter Moons

Contact Date: Thursday, October 19, 1978, 6:04 PM
Verifiable Publications: Semjase Kontakt Berichte, 1st ed. Vol. 18, 1980
UET-WS Vol. 18, pg. 1797-1798, 1979-1980s
Messages from the Pleiades, Vol. 2, pg. 358, 1990
Semjase Kontakt Berichte, 2nd ed. Vol. 8, pg. 1413, 1990
Prophetien und Voraussagen, pg. 99-100, 1996
Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 3, pg. 231-232, 2004
Type of Claim: not 100%
Corroborated Article(s) 1979

Messages from the Pleiades, Vol. 2, pg. 358, 1990

Meier:
(…) My question is the following: Your official information about the number of Jupiter moons is not correct, because they correspond by only a part with the truth. As far as I know, this giant planet has 17 moons (seventeen), as I was informed by Ptaah during the great journey.

Semjase:
74/That is right, but this matter is not allowed to be known on Earth before the month of September 1979: afterwards this matter of fact does no longer play a part.
75/Besides that, the American scientists will, in the course of their evaluations of the Jupiter-exposures, discover at least two more moons of that planet.

Meier:
Then this will not be only one?

Semjase:
76/I said that they will discover at least two of those, after which then only three will still not be known to them.

Meier:
That’s a thing, but I will still keep silent about it.

Analysis

IOI:

  1. Jupiter has 17 moons
  2. At least 2 new Jupiter moons will be discovered

Since a lot of investigation has already been done by others on the alleged predictions from CR 115, we will often quote from previous research.

1. Jupiter has 17 moons

By the time of Contact Report 115 (October 19, 1978), there were 14 known moons of Jupiter. Since then new moons have continuously been discovered over the years and the total number of discovered moons of Jupiter up to February 2015 is 67. So was Meier incorrect?

Interestingly enough we have noticed that the information in Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 3, 2004 has been altered compared to all earlier editions even up to the year 1996 when CR 115 was published in Prophetien und Voraussagen. The altered text has been underlined below.

SKB, 1st ed. Vol 18, UET-WS Vol. 18, SKB, 2nd ed Vol. 8; MFP Vol 2, 1990 & PuV, 1996:

Meier:
(…) As far as I know, this giant planet has 17 moons (seventeen), as I was informed by Ptaah during the great journey.

Semjase:
76. I said that they will discover at least two of those, after which then only three will still not be known to them.

Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 3, 2004

Meier:
(…) To my knowledge, this giant planet has 17 larger moons and several smaller ones, as I learned from Ptaah during the Great Journey.

Semjase:
79. I told you that they will discover at least two, after which then only three of the larger ones and several of the smaller ones still won’t be known to them.

But even if we consider what Meier published in the recent PPKB 3, 2004 on the number of Jupiter moons in CR 115 and CR 123 (new information on the number of Jupiter moons was also added to CR 123 only in PPKB 3, 2004; see Billy’s verse after Semjase’s verse 181) there are some obvious problems, as is addressed in the following response of postdoctoral researcher in astronomy Stuart Robbins on the number of moons according to Meier’s 2004 description:

“Unfortunately, this is too vague to score as an accurate prophecy. What’s the cut-off for a larger versus smaller one? The four Galilean satellites make up >99.9% of all the mass of the moons of Jupiter. By diameter, the smallest Galilean satellite is 3,122 km in diameter, and the next-largest moon is Amalthea with a long radius of 250 km … more on Amalthea in a bit. There’s another break in size between Leda and Callirrhoe, where Leda is 16 km and Callirrhoe is 9 km across, but that’s 16 moons Leda and larger, not 17. Most astronomers refer to Jupiter as having 4 large moons and then a gaggle of smaller ones. The number of known Jovian satellites now is 66, which is not enumerated in Meier’s writings. One might be tempted to say this is a miss, but I’m going to be conservative and generous and say it’s simply too vague without a specific definition of “several smaller ones”.”

In CR 150, Meier states that according to the Plejaren Saturn only has 29 real moons whereas the rest are just micro-satellites or adoniden that were captured remains from the planet Malona after it exploded several thousands of years ago and formed the asteroid belt. In the light of this information, it could be argued that the actual number of Jupiter moons (according to the Plejaren) would be – ‘17 larger moons and several smaller ones‘ and that there may be some moons among the total number of 67, that were captured remains from the planet Malona/asteroid belt. But this is again too vague to score for an authentic prediction.

2. At least 2 new Jupiter moons will be discovered

This is a rather safe prediction with high chances of fulfillment because scientists knew that the flybys of Voyager I and Voyager II space probes during the 1970-1980s would lead to many new discoveries, especially the discoveries of new moons of the giant planets Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune. So this prediction too is simply too statistically likely to be regarded as an extraordinary prediction. The following excerpt is again from Stuart Robbin’s article:

“The next line in the Contact Report, or “CR” for short, is by the alien Semjase, who stated, “… for certain reasons, that may not become known on the Earth before the month of September, 1979.” So, we wouldn’t know for at least 11 months after this CR was written that Jupiter had more than 14 moons that were known to that time.

Now we get into more specifics. There were 14 moons known prior to Voyager 1’s encounter with Jupiter. They started the Jupiter observation phase on January 6, 1979. The closest encounter with Jupiter was around noon on March 5, 1979. Jupiter observations stopped on April 13, 1979. Voyager 2 started its observation phase on April 4, 1979, and ended August 5, 1979. Two were discovered by Voyager 1 and one by Voyager 2 and announced in 1979 and 1980. While the images were taken in 1979, the actual discovery of the moons from Voyager 1 images were not made until 1980 in two papers by Synnott in Science and Science News. However, the discovery by Jewitt and others of Adrastea was made in August, submitted that same month as an abstract to the Division of Planetary Sciences meeting scheduled for October 1979, and embargoed and published in Science in November 1979 as well as presented at that DPS meeting in October. It’s true that the press release was not made available until October. Remember, the prophecy was that we wouldn’t know about them before September.

One could look at this in a few different ways. First, objectively, one must admit that this was known to some people on Earth before September 1979. Second, cynically, one could easily predict that moons would be discovered in the Voyager images. After all, they were searching for them, just like we’ll be looking for more moons from New Horizons as it gets to Pluto, and the thirteenth and fourteenth moons had just been discovered 5 and 4 years earlier. Given that the encounters were in March and July, and there is a major planetary science conference in October, it is logical to say that moons would be discovered in 1979, but not announced until that DPS meeting in October, hence, “not become known on the Earth before the month of September.” This happens all the time where the mission teams work furiously as soon as the data are downloaded, get their abstracts written and submitted, get the papers written and submitted and reviewed, and everything is embargoed until the meeting so they can get their big timed press release and the whole team is at the meeting to talk to the journalists. That’s what happens, it’s not a leap to expect that. And so, I would argue that this claim is both falsified – they were known before September – but it was also a pretty safe one to make that they at least would not be known to the general population until after September, as in during October’s DPS meeting. Given that and the probability and expectation of finding moons, this is a classic type of safe prediction to make that has a high chance of coming true, especially when ignoring that the information was known to the mission scientists before the big release.

This situation also illustrates the dangers of using only press releases as your source for when something happens because a press release only happens months if not a year or two after something has been discovered. You have to make the discovery. You have to run it by colleagues. You have to write the paper. You have to submit the paper. You have to have the paper peer-reviewed. You have to revise the paper and re-submit and have it re-reviewed. Then you can get it published which can take months. Then, if it’s big enough, you get the sexy press release when your paper is finally published. Meanwhile, dozens if not hundreds or thousands of people already know about it because of this lengthy process.”

Jupiter’s Great Red Spot & Ring, Amalthea, Io’s Volcanism & Plasma Torus

Contact Date: Thursday, October 19, 1978, 6:04 PM
Verifiable Publications: Semjase Kontakt Berichte, 1st ed. Vol. 18, 1980
UET-WS Vol. 18, pg. 1785-1796, 1979-1980’s
Prophetien, pg. 87-91, 1982
Messages from the Pleiades, Vol. 2, pg. 355-357, 1990
Semjase Kontakt Berichte, 2nd ed. Vol. 8, pg. 1401-1412, 1990
Prophetien und Voraussagen, pg. 96-98, 1996
Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 3, pg. 222-230, 2004
Type of Claim: not 100%
Corroborated Article(s) 1979

Messages from the Pleiades, Vol 2, pg. 355-357, 1990

Meier:
(…) And next, I also wonder about whether the “Voyager” sent out by the USA will obtain good results at Jupiter?

Semjase:
53/According to our calculations about the course of the sonde, it will fly very near to the star and to different moons of Jupiter, which means that good results have to be obtained, if the instruments of the research means are working faultlessly.

Meier:
Will this perhaps mean that the time has come for the scientists to discover that the so-called Red spot of Jupiter is in truth a self-rotating funnel-shaped hole in the wildly fluctuating surface of this unimproved sun, and that the funnel-hole forms the center of a gigantic and many thousand years long lasting storm? And does this also mean that now it will be found that not only Saturn and Uranus have a ring, but Jupiter as well, even if it is much smaller and thinner than both of the others at Saturn and Uranus?

Semjase:
54/Surely, even this has to be recognized, because the sonde will be steered so close to the celestial body, that it must necessarily record these matters.

Meier:
Oh yes, and then perhaps it will be found, that the ring of Jupiter consists in most part of the out-thrown particles of the great volcanoes of the moon Io, which were partly caught up by Jupiter, while the greatest part of all the out-thrown material falls back onto Io again, and in practice covers all volcanic openings, as well as the huge plains and mountains, by which this moon, contrary to the other moons of Jupiter, shows no crater-filled landscape but a fantastic levelness despite the many craters.

Semjase:
55/Suring your excursion tours with me you have very thoroughly listened to me, and admirably kept than in memory.
56/Can you still remember other facts?
57/Besides, these facts will surely be seen by the exploring mean.

Meier:
Fine then. Of course I still know several facts, because I have not forgotten all that you and Ptaah explained to me. I still can well remember the differently larger Jupiter-moons having different colors, as for example red, yellow, brown and white, as well as orange. Too, I still know that Jupiter should actually have become a sun, but her mass was too small for this star to really have been able to develop into a sun, but that nevertheless the whole formation consists in greatest part of fluid helium and hydrogen. Then still I know of you or Ptaah explaining to me that in the main parts potash salts and sulphur compounds would form the surface until deep down, and that all would have set down as a very thick crust, when the great masses of water would have vanished from this body. Especially, I think I remember that you said the moon Io was once completely covered by water. If I remember correctly, you both told me; I don’t know any more whether you or Ptaah, that the moon Io is exactly the large opposite to the moon Europa, that namely there on the moon Europa, the masses of water had not evaporated and changed but have frozen into a gigantic armour of ice. Besides this, you still told as many other things and gave explanations to me, of which I still know a lot. So you also told me that the moon having about 200 kilometers in length, which I termed a huge chicken’s egg, I think, was the moon next to Jupiter, whose name I do no more remember.

Semjase:
58/Considering all things, you have an admirable memory.
59/That moon you just mentioned is called “Amalthea”.
60/The moon Io itself, about which you said something, moreover is the most volcano-active planetary body in the solar system.
61/This fact already then was explained to you, if you remember.

Meier:
Of course, I don’t forget such things so soon. Then you said this moon was such more active volcanicly that the Earth. Besides this I still remember very exactly, that you explained that the kilometers large cloud formations of the storm funnel of Jupiter moves at great velocity, and rotate counterclockwise.

Semjase:
62/Surely, so I explained.

Meier:
Now I wonder whether I remember correctly about the volcanism of the moon Io. If I am right, then you explained that the volcano eruptions occurred by elemental power, and were equal to immense explosions which would fling out their material similar to atom-bomb clouds, which reached heights of up to 180 kilometers. Mainly this consisted of dust particles, gasses, ashes and a little magma, which reached ejection velocities of up to 2,300 km/h and more, and because of the missing atmosphere of the moon there existed little counter-force. But you told me that the greater part of the out-thrown material falls back again onto the moon, as I have already mentioned. The rest, so you explained, was pushed out into free space, of which then a part is attracted by Jupiter, and is very slowly collected into her ring as a compound of sulphur ions. Is this correct?

Semjase:
63/Your memory is very much correct.

Analysis

The alleged foreknowledge of the information regarding Jupiter, its rings and moons was presented as evidence for the case by FIGU co-founder and Core Group member, Guido Moosbrugger in his 1991 book Und sie fliegen doch!, pgs. 295-298. The same information was also available in its later editions published in the years 2001 (And yet they fly!, pg. 228-231) , 2004 (And still they fly!, pg. 192-194) and 2012 (Und sie fliegen doch!, pg. 392-395). In PPKB 3 published in 2004, an article from 1979 (see above table) was added as corroboration.

IOI:

  1. Jupiter is a failed star and Great Red Spot (GRS)
  2. Jupiter has a ring just like Saturn and Uranus
  3. Origin of Jupiter’s ring
  4. Amalthea, the closest moon to Jupiter is about 200 kms in length
  5. Io once had water
  6. Io is the most volcanically active body in solar system
  7. No crater landscape on Io
  8. Sulphur ion ring around Jupiter is caused by Io
  9. Io’s volcanic plume’s height and velocity

1. Jupiter is a failed star and Great Red Spot (GRS)

In a response (October 1978) to Meier, Semjase asserts that our scientists, with the help of data sent back to Earth by Voyager I, will soon discover that the GRS is a self-rotating, funnel-shaped hole and that this hole forms the center of a thousand-year old storm. However this newspaper article from September 11, 1974 already states that the GRS is similar to a hurricane like system on Earth. It also discusses the similarities and differences between Jupiter and the Sun.

“The planet Jupiter is apparently a surprisingly hot, spinning ball of liquid hydrogen that in some respects resembles the sun, a panel of scientists reported Tuesday. And the great red spot that has mystified astronomers gazing at Jupiter’s colorful clouds for more than a century seems to be a 25,000 mile-wide hurricane.”

There were even articles suggesting these facts several years before Meier allegedly wrote it down. The storm is said to have been raging on Jupiter since at least 300-400 years, when it was first observed by Robert Hooke in the year 1665, though nobody knows the actual age of the GRS.

2. Jupiter has a ring just like Saturn and Uranus

Saturn and Uranus (like other giant planets) are known to have ring-systems consisting of multiple rings, not just ‘a ring‘ in the sense of a single ring around the planet as Meier seems to imply. Here too we have noticed some alterations made to this information in the 3rd edition of contact reports (CRs) Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 3, 2004, compared to earlier editions. In all earlier editions of the CRs, including the books Und sie fliegen doch! (1991), Prophetien und Voraussagen (1996), And yet they fly (2001) and And still they fly (2004), there was mention of just ‘a ring‘ but in the latest edition, PPKB 3, it was changed into a ‘ring system’.

Another alteration was also made to the description of the ring. In PPKB 3, 2004 it was mentioned that this ring-system of Jupiter is “of a very different kind than the other two at Saturn and Uranus” while in all earlier editions, it was just mentioned as being ‘far thinner and smaller’.

And Still they fly!, pg. 192, 2004:

Billy:
(…) Does that also mean they will now find out that not only Saturn and Uranus have a ring, but also Jupiter, though it is far thinner and smaller than the other two around Saturn and Uranus.

Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 3, 2004:

Billy:
(…) And does this also mean that it will now be found out that not only do Saturn and Uranus have a ring system but also even Jupiter, only that it is, indeed, of a very different kind than the other two at Saturn and Uranus?

Let’s put aside the various objections to these alterations made in 2004 and for a moment consider the PPKB 3 information. Once again we would like to quote from the response of Stuart Robbins:

In 1975, Contact Report 311, Meier wrote, “whereby I also see once again that Jupiter has a fine ring, similar to the rings of Saturn…”

As I already said in the intro, I wouldn’t consider them to be similar to the rings of Saturn, but that’s less objective. What about the bigger question of whether Jupiter has rings? It’s true that no one knew FOR A FACT that Jupiter had rings before their official discovery by Voyager 1 in 1979. That doesn’t mean that no one thought there were there, and predicted them, and that a betting man would put them into a prediction.

The fact that the Voyager team even looked for rings around Jupiter should tell you that some people thought they would be there.

To quote from the book, Planetary Rings, by my current boss, Larry Esposito, on page 12:

“Six years earlier, Pioneer had detected a disappearance of radiation belts near the planet that could be explained by their being removed from that particular location by absorption due to a Jupiter ring. After some argument, Tobias Owen convinced his colleagues and the Voyager project management to invest precious minutes as the Voyager 1 spacecraft passed above the Jupiter equator to stare at apparently blank space in the direction of a possible ring. This investment paid off when the smeared image clearly showed a fuzzy ring surrounding the planet!”

So, in 1973, which was two years before this CR, and in 1974, one year before this CR by Meier, we have people openly discussing the possibility of rings being found. In fact, you can go to again the DPS abstracts from 1974 and read the title of a submission, “The possible combination of radiation belts and dust rings on Jupiter” by T. Gold, hypothesizing that “Jupiter may provide similar circumstances [to Saturn], and its rings may simply be too weak to have been observed. A sharp increase in impact rate was in fact noted by Pioneer 10 in the vicinity of Jupiter.” In other words, another line of evidence to expect rings – this time not from radiation, but from particle detection itself. These were repeated in papers by Fillius et al. (1975) and Acuña and Ness (1976), though this latter one is of course after Meier wrote this Contact Report.

But, if you really wanted to, you could go to TWELVE years before this contact report, to 1962, when there were two papers in the journal Soviet Astronomy, one titled, “On the Ring Encircling Jupiter,” and the other “Possible Existence of a Ring of Comets and Meteorites Around Jupiter.”

And if you want to go really “out there” and show that Meier wasn’t even the first prognosticator to say that Jupiter has rings, the famed Remote Viewer, Ingo Swann, wrote in 1973, two years before Meier did, that he went on his psychic journey and saw that Jupiter had rings. Again, two years before Meier. So this information was out there in several different circles at the time.

Yet, this is claimed to be proof positive of Meier’s prophecy not only of the rings’ existence but also their composition in the document, “Absolute Proof of Advance Knowledge of the Rings of Jupiter and their Composition by Billy Meier, from his 115th Contact on October 19, 1978,” written by Michael Horn in 2003. Michael claims that it was an Astronomy Picture of the Day post from 1995 that was, “the first article to suggest what the rings were composed of … .” Clearly, it wasn’t. There were books written about Jupiter and chapters about the rings well before 1995, and given where they were relative to the moons, and how unstable ice is in the area, we had pretty good ideas what they were made of, and that was dusty-type material. But that gets us a bit ahead of the next topic, the source of Jupiter’s rings.”

1 This information about the similarity between Jupiter’s ring and Saturn’s rings was missing in CR 31 (1975) in all earlier editions but was only published in PPKB 3 (2004), indicating that there is no evidence that Meier had foreknowledge about the ring around Jupiter in 1975. See Message from the Pleiades, Vol. 1, pg. 305, 1988.

3. Origin of Jupiter’s rings

Even though there is so much room for ambiguity and contradiction in this information as will be shown below, Michael Horn promotes this as “absolute proof” in his 2003 article.

To once again quote Stuart Robbins:

In CR 115 (BMUFOR note: PPKB 3, 2004) from 1978, Meier makes another statement about Jupiter’s rings, besides saying that they exist. He says, “and so, will it also not be found out that the ring clouds2 around Jupiter, to a large extent, consist of tiny particles ejected from large volcanoes of the moon Io … ?” The alien Semjase replies, effectively, “yes.” I’m going to talk about volcanism on Io in a bit, but first, what is the source of Jupiter’s rings? Meier is stating fairly unequivocally that it’s material from Ionian volcanoes, or at least the majority is. However, well after the Voyager observations, in CR 201, from 1985, Meier wrote that Jupiter’s rings were made from “only a single and small comet.” Which is it?

Well, it’s not by any stretch primarily made of material from Io. Io does produce a torus – a doughnut-shape – of material around Jupiter, but it is not considered by ANYONE to be part of Jupiter’s rings. One main reason is that it is well beyond the ring system, where the Thebe Gossamer Ring extends 226,000 km from Jupiter, and that’s the extent of the ring system, while Io and its plasma torus orbits about twice as far away, at 420,000 km. The second reason is kinda what I just said, that it’s a plasma torus, not a dust and/or ice ring. Io ejects material that goes into orbit and is made of highly ionized particles that, pretty much by definition, are a plasma torus about the planet. It was thought at the time that Io MIGHT contribute to the rings, but we now know the composition is vastly different. Instead, it’s micrometeorite bombardment of the inner-most four moons that replenishes them, primarily from Amalthea and Thebe. Sulfur and other material from Io is NOT by ANY stretch the dominant constituent of Jupiter’s rings.

If one wants to claim that the Io plasma torus is what Billy meant, the context belies that claim. Billy stated that Jupiter’s would be “similar … to the one on Saturn,” but a torus of plasma – highly charged particles – trapped by Jupiter’s magnetosphere in orbit and not visible to the eye, well, then that is a very classic example of post-hoc rationalization. If one wants to claim that some newspaper article, such as the one from the New York Times from March 12, 1979, said, “The extremely ionized sulfur particles found in the huge ring encircling Jupiter at the orbit of Io …” and therefore since they used the word “ring” it is similar to planetary rings in any normal, common, or scientific use of the word, they would be wrong. It is not unusual for newspapers to use incorrect terminology. It is not unusual for newspapers to use simplistic words to get a general idea across. It is not unusual for press releases to do the same. Instead of evidence for Meier being correct that the Io plasma torus is actually a ring because the NYT used that word, it’s evidence that the NYT used incorrect terminology.

So now we move on to CR 201, which if you read them literally, contradicts CR 115 in terms of the source of most of Jupiter’s rings. It also reflects one possibility for the origin of the rings that was also once favored, but this was well known in both technical and popular literature at the time. In fact, people as far back as the 1800s with French astronomer Édouard Roche who speculated that planetary rings were made by comets or moons breaking up into a disk around the planet. We also had mass estimates of the rings from the Voyager mission based on how bright they were and many assumptions about particle sizes and density, and that does come out to the mass of a comet. But again, CR 201 was written in 1985, several years after Voyagers’ encounters with Jupiter. And, it’s not what we think the rings are made of today — they’re not ice around Jupiter like they are around Saturn, they’re dust, formed from small impacts of the four inner-most moons of Jupiter … not Io.

Also contained in CR 201 is the statement that ground-based telescopes3 can’t see Jupiter’s rings, and that even the Hubble Space Telescope won’t be able to observe them. While it was true and known at the time that ground-based telescopes couldn’t see the rings, Keck in Hawai’i observed them successfully in 1997. As for HST, it easily observed them in 1999 (Meier et al., 1999), possibly earlier but that was the earliest date I found; it also observed them in 2002 and 2003, and I’ve linked to an image of them observed by HST in the shownotes along with the moon Metis. This means that again, Billy was wrong — except actually, in this case, according to the Contact Report it was the alien Quetzal, not Billy, who said that HST wouldn’t be able to see them.

In fact, Quetzal stated the “Jupiter ring already stands in dissolution and might already be gone in less than a year,” which would eliminate them by 1987. They’re still there. While this is perhaps not as objective as one would like since Quetzal said “might … be gone,” an advanced alien cross-dimensional species should be able to tell that the rings are (a) being replenished, and (b) how quickly they’re being destroyed versus replenished such that they would not be destroyed within one year.

So, one has a couple options here: (1) Billy went out on a limb and was wrong about Io making the rings and tried to cover 7 years later by saying it was a comet instead which is still unlikely for Jupiter’s rings, or (2) the aliens were wrong about several things, or, (3) well, that’s about it. These statements about the source and observations and lifetime of Jupiter’s ring were simply wrong, so either Billy was wrong or if you believe he was told this by aliens, then they were wrong or lying to him.

2 In all earlier publications, Meier wrote: “(…) perhaps it will be found, that the ring of Jupiter consists in most part of the outthrown particles of the great volcanoes of the moon Io…”

3 Similar information was newly added (see underlined part below) to CR 115 only in PPKB 3, 2004, which gives the impression that it was forecasted all along that our equipment most likely would not get good resolution pictures of Jupiter’s rings, whereas in all earlier publications (ex: MFP Vol 2, pg. 355, verse 54) the same verse suggested otherwise.

56. Surely, that should actually be ascertained, for the probe will be steered so close to the celestial body that it should record these things, but that will hardly be the case because Jupiter’s rings consist of nearly invisible particles that are so minutely small and transparent that they can only be registered as clouds with special apparatuses.

The billymeierufocase website (belonging to Derek Bartholomaus, a member of the Independent Investigations Group) mentions the following articles regarding Jupiter’s ring:

Meier’s claim was a hypothesis at various times in the past. Here are some reports from 1979:

Newsweek, 23 July 1979 [NW2]
“[Scientists] speculate that the particles [in the ring] could be volcanic materials spewed out by Io”

New York Times, 31 July 1979 [NYT13]
“An alternate suggestion is that Io, the nearest large moon, somehow replenishes the ring with tiny particles.”

Science, 23 November 1979 [Sci3]
“Candidates for sources to supply this material include cometary and meteoric debris, impact ejecta from the inner satellites4, and volcanic ejecta from Io, possibly by magnetospheric forces.”

4 strong confirmation for the ‘impact ejecta from the inner satellites’ hypothesis came in the year 1998.

4. Amalthea, the closest moon to Jupiter is about 200 kms in length

Meier says: “So you also told me that the moon having about 200 kilometers in length, which I termed a huge chicken’s egg, I think, was the moon next5 to Jupiter, whose name I do no more remember.” After congratulating Meier for having “an admirable memory” in all things, Semjase then replied: “That moon you just mentioned is called “Amalthea.

5 The original Meier’s German sentence reads:

“Ich glaube, es war der jupiternächste Mond, an dessen Namen ich mich nicht mehr erinnere.”

This was translated as below in the English editions of Guido Moosbrugger’s book ‘Und sie fliegen doch!’ (And Yet They Fly!, pg. 230, 2001 & And Still They Fly!, pg. 193, 2004), which is the version we will consider for our analysis, since according to Meier Wendelle’s translations contained a lot of errors:

“I believe it was the moon closest to Jupiter whose name I no longer can remember.”

Until late 1979, Amalthea (discovered on September 9, 1892) was considered to be the closest moon to Jupiter. But towards the end of 1979 the moons Metis (August 1980), Adrastea (October 1979) & Thebe (November 1980) were discovered, and Amalthea, orbiting at a distance of ~181,00o kms from Jupiter, turned out to be only the third closest moon to Jupiter. Adrastea, orbiting at a distance of ~129,000 kms from Jupiter, was the 2nd closest and Metis orbiting at a distance of ~128,000 kms was the closest moon to Jupiter. It is interesting to note that Meier’s information exactly matches with the scientific knowledge at that time (before late 1979) on the innermost moon. Another equally interesting point is that this information on Amalthea being the closest moon contradicts Meier’s apparent foreknowledge on the discovery of new moons of Jupiter – Metis and Adrastea.

Metis-Adrastea-Amalthea-Thebe

Metis-Adrastea-Amalthea-Thebe (values given are Jovian radii)

Also regarding the size of Amalthea, we would like to quote the billymeierufocase website:

Amalthea is not the innermost moon and it has been determined to be approximately 270 km long.

Science, 1 June 1979 [Sci2]
265 +/- 20 km

Science, 23 November 1979 [Sci3]
270 +/- 15 km

However, Meier’s information matched that of multiple newspaper and magazine articles in early 1979 which reported that Amalthea was the innermost moon and that it was approximately 200 km long. Here are some articles that gave incorrect information for Amalthea:

New York Times, 7 March 1979 [NYT7]
140 miles long (224 km)

Aviation Week, 12 March 1979 [AW1]
200-220 km long

New York Times, 1 April 1979 [NYT11]
100 miles long (160 km)

On Amalthea’s size and “egg” shape, Stuart Robbins writes:

“A paper from 1975, 3 years before CR 115, estimates that Amalthea “has a radius of 120±30 km,” which means it would be 240±60 km in length. So the size was known.

As for the shape, here’s where there’s nothing specifically written, but where one must rely on general knowledge of planetary science and physics to show that it was general knowledge that it would be a tri-axial ellipse, or egg-shaped. Every object in the solar system larger than a few thousand kilometers is pretty close to spherical. But, even Earth bulges by 10s of kilometers at the equator. Ceres, the largest asteroid, is about 975 by 975 by 909 km, in other words, one axis is 7% shorter than the others. The second-largest asteroid, Pallas, is 580x555x500 km, where the shortest axis is 14% shorter than the longest. The second-most-massive asteroid, Vesta, is 573x557x446 km, with the longest axis 28% larger than the shortest axis.

As you go smaller, you get more ellipsoidal. This is because you simply don’t have enough gravity to pull yourself into a spherical shape. Given that it was estimated that Amalthea had a long axis around 240±60 km, half the size of the largest asteroids other than Ceres, what would have been amazing and unusual is if it were NOT egg-shaped. Our best estimates today are that it’s 250x146x128 km, giving it an average radius (BMUFOR note: length?) of 167±4 km. Which, if you want to be strict about it, is not 200 km unless you round to the nearest one significant figure. But I’m not going to be strict about that, rather I think the entire point of it being egg-shaped being a prediction and something unknown is false, given what we knew and know about other objects of similar sizes and that basic physics calculations show that an object that size cannot pull itself into a sphere.

This was not something that was unknown to scientists at the time. But it was also not written down, just as they didn’t feel the need to write down anywhere that a moon of Jupiter is going to orbit the planet. It’s just something that IS.”

5. Io once had water

Again we quote from the billymeierufocase website:

It is not believed that Io was once covered in water. The possibility was suggested in 1979 to explain the appearance of Io. The surface looked like salt flats, which would be explained by evaporated oceans. However, widespread volcanic activity was discovered shortly afterward which also explained the appearance. The surface is no longer thought to be salt flats, and the ocean hypothesis appears to have been abandoned.

Neither of the Voyager summary papers in Science cite evidence that Io ever had a liquid ocean:

Science, 1 June 1979 [Sci2]
“unlike the other satellites, Io has no water absorption features”

Science, 23 November 1979 [Sci3]
(No mention of oceans on Io)

Here are some web pages that mention the salt or lack of water, but do not suggest that an ocean evaporated:

<http://www.nineplanets.org/io.html>
“Unlike the other Galilean satellites, Io has little or no water. This is probably because Jupiter was hot enough early in the evolution of the solar system to  drive off the volatile elements in the vicinity of Io but not so hot to do so farther out.”

Note that “drive off the volatile elements” is not the same as evaporating a liquid ocean; I believe this is talking about a time before Io was cool enough for water to be liquid.

<http://www.planetaryexploration.net/jupiter/io/io_plasma_torus.html>
“How salt might form on Io is unclear. It may be that there are subsurface rivers or aquifers supplying the fuel for Io’s volcanoes that carry dissolved salts, or the salts may be the result of chemical reactions in the atmosphere.”

<http://www.universetoday.com/am/publish/salt_on_io.html>
“Because the vapor pressure of this salt is entirely negligible, NaCl cannot be in sublimation equilibrium with Io’s surface and its presence must directly result from continuous volcanic output.”

However, there were some media reports in 1979 that Io once had water:

New York Times, 2 March 1979 [NYT4]
“One of the enigmas of Io is that it appears to be coated with various kinds of salts. But the presence of salt, a residue of the evaporation process, implies that there is or has been water there.”

New York Times, 5 March 1979 [NYT6]
“Io’s surface appears to be composed of sulfur and a variety of salts, which suggests to the scientist that the moon, dry now, once was a wetter body.”

Meier’s incorrect information again matches incorrect information reported in the media.

Was the ocean hypothesis completely abandoned? According to a 2010 study based on computer models, Io could have held large quantities of water in its initial formation stage. Of course this hasn’t yet been confirmed by scientists.

“Life on the surface is all but impossible, but if you go down further into the rocks, it could be intriguing,” he said. “We shouldn’t categorize it as dead right away just because it’s so extreme.”

Computer models suggest Io formed in a region around Jupiter where water ice was plentiful. Io’s heat, combined with the resulting possibility of liquid water, could have made life plausible.

“There must have been quite a lot of water on Io shortly after formation, judging from the amount of water ice on Europa and Ganymede,” said Schulze-Makuch.”

6. Io is the most volcanically active body in solar system

Again we have noticed that this part of the information too was altered. In all earlier publications it was published as this:

60. The moon Io itself, about which you said something, moreover is the most volcano-active planetary body in the solar system.

But in the latest edition of the contact reports, PPKB 3, 2004, it was published as this:

63. The moon Io, of which you said something, is, by the way, the most volcanically active planetary body in the Jupiter system.

The most recent version of this verse suggests that there could be another planetary body that is the most volcanically active body in our entire solar system. According to current knowledge, the Jupiter moon Io is the most volcanically active body in the solar system. For our analysis let us consider the main point in the verse which is Io being the most volcanically active body. Was Meier the first one to state this as a fact?

On March 4, 1979 (5 days before Wendelle allegedly received CR 115) after analyzing the images sent by the Voyager I probe, JPL held a press conference where scientists on the science imaging team proposed that the surface of Io might not be too old in geological terms, much younger than the four billion years of the moon’s existence, and much younger than the surface of other moons, because this surface was smooth and not cratered; lending support to the active volcanism theory which was only confirmed 5 days later, on March 9, 1979, the same day on which Wendelle received the CR 115.

Michael Horn published an article – NASA’s “Most Important” Jupiter Discovery Published First – by UFO Prophet – in October 2011, claiming that the Io-volcanism information was verifiably published by Meier on October 19, 1978, though even to this day, neither he nor Meier/FIGU has provided any evidence to back up this claim. Even if we assume that Meier did publish it on October 19, 1978, the information on Io-volcanism was not completely new. Once again we quote from the response of Stuart Robbins:

“This required a lot of investigation on my part, but what I found is that, as with Jupiter’s rings, Meier may have been among the first out there to specifically state as a matter of fact that this is the case, but as a matter of speculation and hypothesizing among scientists, this was already out there. And scientists aren’t going to be ones to state something as a matter of fact, unlike various types of prognosticators trying to score prophetic hits.

From the book, conveniently called “Volcanism on Io,” in the first chapter, section 2, is the heading, “Prediction of volcanic activity.” I’ll now read from that, because listening to someone read a textbook is the most fascinating thing in the world:

“Even prior to Voyager, it was evident from ground-based instruments that Io had unusual far-infrared photometry and radiometry, with higher brightness temperatures at 10 µm than at 20 µm (Morrison et al., 1972) and unusual thermal inertia as Io emerged from eclipse (e.g., Hansen, 1973; Morrison and Cruikshank, 1973). These observations were difficult to interpret in the context of Io’s being a dead, inactive world.

Just before the Voyager 1 encounter with Io in March, 1979, a notable discovery was made. Witteborn et al. (1979) announced that an intense, temporary brightening at 2 to 5 µm in the infrared had been observed, which they explained as an isolated surface area at a temperature of ≈600 K (on a planet where the peak daytime temperature is ≈130 K). Another hint at Io’s dynamic nature came from Nelson and Hapke (1978), who suggested fumarolic activity as a possible mechanism for producing short-chain sulphur allotropes on Io’s surface to explain features in Io’s spectrum.”

So, what do we have? We have an observation published 6 years before Meier’s CR that showed Io had unusual thermal activity that could be interpreted as volcanic. We also have other observations published in 1973, 5 years before Meier’s writing, showing the same thing, strongly implying that Io was active in some way.

Fast-forward to 1978, the same year, but published in January, well before Meier’s October writing, and there were suggestions of fumaroles to explain heat and chemical signatures. Fumaroles are opening in the planet’s crust OFTEN around volcanoes that emit steam and gases and are hot.

Add to that basic mathematical calculations that had been made many years earlier that showed Io, being the closest large satellite to Jupiter, would be most subject to tidal heating, meaning that it’s basically kneaded like a ball of dough by Jupiter’s and the other large moons’ gravity, and so we KNOW that IF Io is volcanic, it is going to be the most volcanic object in the Jupiter system.

Finally, there’s the Science paper that came out weeks before Voyager 1’s encounter in 1979 by Witteborn et al. who did explicitly predict there would be volcanoes on Io. You might be saying, “But that’s after the Meier prediction!” Yes, that’s true. But, they also talked about their early results at the October DPS meeting in 1978, just at the time that Meier was writing this CR. While this last point is coincidental timing-wise and one might not say it’s very good evidence, there’s still everything else, and not only were all the pieces there to predict Io was volcanic, but people were openly talking about volcanic-driven activity before October 1978, when Meier wrote his CR.”

7. No crater landscape on Io

Once again we quote Stuart Robbins:

“This actually leads right into the next statement by Meier, that Io “exhibits no too great crater landscape but rather a fantastic evenness, despite the many craters.” I talked with a scientist who was around at the time. He stated that while this material was out there and people were holding out hope for volcanoes, they were fully expecting to count craters on Io’s surface to determine an age estimate. While that is of course not documented, written evidence, it goes to the mindset at the time, that the popular discussions expected there to be craters. And, if one adopts the null hypothesis that Meier wrote what was in the popular culture — if the very recent, cutting-edge popular culture — then one would expect him to write something like that.

And, because he did, he was wrong. Io shows no craters. Zero.”

Michael Horn responded to this as follows:

“He seems to also have mangled a few points, such as Io’s surface not having craters. Meier’s description of the “fantastic evenness, despite the many craters?” of its surface makes good sense in light of this from NASA: http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap130804.html:

“The notable absence of impact craters suggests that the entire surface is covered with new volcanic deposits much more rapidly than craters are created.”

…so it’s not that there aren’t craters created, it’s just – as NASA says – that they’re filled in much more rapidly than they’re created. It sure sounds to me like we have an actual eyewitness describing what NASA actually confirms.”

Stuart Robbins then responded to Michael’s comment as follows:

“Your statements and the APOD caption do not in any way contradict what I stated. Craters form on every solid surface in the solar system. We have known this since Eugene Shoemaker’s conclusive work in the 1960s, and this was thought by many through Barringer’s less conclusive work in the early 1900s, both on Meteor Crater in Arizona. The number and sizes of craters visible today tells us about resurfacing rates. The fact that Io shows NO visible craters today means that the volcanic resurfacing is at a rate equal to or faster than the formation rate of craters.

If you are trying to say that craters are on Io, we just can’t see them because they’re buried by lava, and therefore Meier’s statement is correct, you are stating something that is obvious to any person familiar with geology. As I said in the previous paragraph, it is a known fact and had been for well over a decade before Meier wrote this contact report that craters form everywhere. We just didn’t know the resurfacing rate. Hence, again, if you are claiming that the statement Meier made is to be interpreted as craters are there, we just can’t see them because they’ve been covered by lava, it’s the same as saying that there are craters at [pick any location on Earth] we just can’t see them because they’ve been buried or erased by resurfacing processes (volcanic, aqueous, mass wasting, aeolian, etc.). It’s an obvious statement and does not indicate any foreknowledge of something unknown to people at the time.

But, if we take the statement at face-value, that Meier is stating there ARE “many craters” on Io, the statement is false. There are no impact craters on Io. So your choice is either an obvious statement of fact like stating the sun is round, or he is wrong. A literal reading indicates he’s wrong. Special pleading indicates it was an obvious statement. I don’t see a third option here that would get him to be right and that he was right about something unknown at the time.”

8. Sulphur ion ring around Jupiter is caused by Io

The press release on the fact that a sulphur ion ring encircles Jupiter was published as early as March 3, 1979, again nearly a week before Wendelle Stevens received contact report 115 from Meier on March 9, 1979. Let’s suppose that Meier did in fact typed this information down before March 1979.

Even then, there is a problem with how Meier wrote it. Meier used the same word ‘ring‘ to describe what are two entirely different things; the Jupiter ring system and Io’s Plasma Torus whose “rings” have different origins, locations and compositions. Below are the excepts from CR 115:

Let’s give Meier the benefit of doubt and assume that he is indeed referring to two different types of “rings” as mentioned above. Again we quote from Stuart Robbin’s response:

“… Michael Horn and others have said this is a strong Meier corroboration of prophecy because of popular newspaper articles written in 1979, one stating, “The Voyager 1 spacecraft, a continuing source of surprises as it speeds toward Jupiter, has startled scientists again by revealing that the enormous planet is ringed by super-hot electrified sulfur particles.” Therefore, the thinking goes, we didn’t know about sulfur around Jupiter from Io yet.

Again, this is the problem with relying on press releases. I already quoted from a 1978 conference abstract that stated sulfur had been detected on Io. You can also go back to 1977, an abstract talking not only about Io’s sodium cloud, hydrogen cloud, and potassium cloud, but also one by Pilcher and Schempp with the title, The extended sodium and sulfur clouds of Jupiter.” It states, “… ionized sulfur … emissions were observed around Jupiter during the 1976/77 apparition … . … The spatial distribution of ionized sulfur emission was observed to vary substantially from day to night. On 17 UT Dec. 1976, the SII [doubly-ionized sulfur] emission was strongly concentrated inside of Io’s orbit, in accord with the observations of Munch and Trauger [from 1977].” And I found another abstract from 1977 talking about sulfur from Io and a paper from 1978 about it, all linked up in the shownotes.”

Refer to this link for many papers published in and up to October 1978 on the ionized sulfur ring orbiting Jupiter.

9. Io’s volcanic plume’s height and velocity

Meier reports that Jupiter’s moon Io has volcanic plumes that would reach heights “up to 180 km” and as fast as “up to 2,300 km/h and more6“. Meier’s phrasing seems to suggest that the values of 180 km and 2,300+ kmph are the upper limits.

6 In the two English translations of Guido Moosbrugger’s book, ‘And yet they fly (pg. 230, 2001)’ and ‘And still they fly (pg. 193, 2004)’, the velocities of the plumes is given as “up to 2,300 kilometers/hour (1,426 miles/hour)”, words such as ‘more’ or ‘higher‘ are absent.

To quote the billymeierufocase website:

There are several problems with Meier’s report that volcanic plumes would reach as high as 180 km and as fast as 2,300 km/h:

A. Eruptions much higher than 180 km have been witnessed. The following sources report higher plumes:

Science, 1 June 1979 [Sci2]
270 km

Science, 23 November 1979 [Sci3]
280 km

<http://dosxx.colorado.edu/JUPITER/PDFS/Ch14.pdf> [Bagenal] p. 10-11
two at ~400 km, 460 km, ~500 km

<http://www.planetaryexploration.net/jupiter/io/plume_eruptions.html>
400 km, 500 km

B. Ejection velocities much faster than 2,300 kilometers per hour have been determined. (Yes, Meier said “up to” and “beyond” 2,300 km/h, which includes all velocities, but I’m assuming that he meant only a little beyond, otherwise he might as well have said “up to 1 km/h and beyond”.) In particular, Science, 1 June 1979 [Sci2] reported velocities about 1 km/s, which is 3,600 km/h.

C. It is particularly strange that the numbers Meier reports (eruptions 180 km high at speeds around 2,300 km/h) are the numbers that were reported by some publications in March 1979, but the units are different. The eruptions observed in March 1979 were about 180 miles high with material estimated to be ejecting at about 2,300 miles per hour. I first noticed this possibility when I visited this web page which reports the numbers in both metric and old fashioned units:

<http://voyager.jpl.nasa.gov/science/jupiter_sattellites.html>
“Plumes from the volcanoes reach more than 300 kilometers (190 miles) above the surface. The material was being ejected at velocities up to 1.05 kilometers a second (2,300 miles an hour).”

I did not find “The Holy Grail” (a source published in Europe reporting both 180 miles and 2,300 miles per hour), but several sources listed numbers that are essentially the same:

New York Times, 13 March 1979 [NYT9]
“the cloud of gas and particulate matter rose as high as 180 miles above the surface […]. Material from the eruption was estimated to be traveling as fast as a bullet fired from a high-powered rifle.”

New York Times, 18 March 1979 [NYT10]
“Those pictures revealed volcanic plumes of ash and gases rising as high as 180 miles above Io’s surface. Material from one eruption was estimated to be traveling as fast as 2,000 miles per hour.”

Aviation Week, 19 March 1979 [AW2]
“eruptions rise to altitudes 150-300km (93-186 mi.) above the surface of the moon, and the velocity of the outflow is estimated at 1,000-2,000 mph”

“The speed of ash and particulars [sic] ejected from the volcano was estimated to be in excess of 2,000 mph”

My explanation for these discrepancies is that Meier read “180 miles high” and “over 2,000 mph” in a terrestrial (probably American) source and accidentally wrote kilometers (the units he was used to) when he copied the numbers. It is also possible that a European source accidentally listed the metric units with non-metric numbers and Meier copied from that report.

In all the writings I have seen, the Plejarens used metric units. It’s a stretch to assume that the Plejarens provided these figures in miles and Meier or the translator accidentally wrote kilometers. Twice.

But even if it could be shown that Meier originally wrote “180 miles” and it was somehow changed later, the maximum height reported is still incorrect. That height is just the maximum height witnessed by terrestrial scientists in 1979. Higher plumes were found after that, and it is safe to assume that higher plumes had occurred before. What would cause the Plejarens to erroneously report that particular number as the maximum height of volcanic eruptions on Io?

Prophecies on world events

Contact Date: Thursday, October 19, 1978, 6:04 PM
Verifiable Publications: Semjase Kontakt Berichte, 1st ed. Vol. 18, 1980
UET-WS Vol. 18, pg. 1783-1800, 1979-1980’s
Prophetien, pg. 85-94, 1982
Messages from the Pleiades, Vol. 2, pg. 353-361, 1990
Semjase Kontakt Berichte, 2nd ed. Vol. 7, pg. 1400 , 1988
Semjase Kontakt Berichte, 2nd ed. Vol. 8, pg. 1401-1415 , 1990
Prophetien und Voraussagen, pg. 95-100, 1996
Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 3, pg. 221-233, 2004
Type of Claim: not 100%
Corroborated Article(s) Miscellaneous

Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 3, pg. 221-233 2004

Semjase:
37. Through murder and forced mass suicide, some 200 children and about 1,023 adult human beings will meet death, but out of all these, only a number of approximately 1,000 will yet be discovered.
38. This tragedy will occur in Jonestown, a settlement site in Guyana, named after the megalomaniacal and consciousness-impaired sect leader Jim Jones, who, with a large part of his fanatical followers influenced under hypnosis, has immigrated to Guyana and created a settlement site there, where he holds his believers like slaves.

(…)

Billy:
(…) Tell me rather, what all is still coming for the world, which you wanted to tell me anyway. At the same time, it would also interest me very much, whether the Shah of Persia will really be overthrown after the New Year and be expelled from Iran, as I had calculated…

(…)

Billy:
(…) What still interests me and what I no longer know exactly: in Iran, another civil war of short duration is still to break out shortly before the overthrow of the Shah. Do you know when this will be?

Semjase:
67. Sure, on the 9th, 10th, and 11th of February, 1979.
(…)

Billy:
It concerns Vietnam and China. Will China really attack Vietnam at the end of February or something? And will it really be just a proforma attack, which represents the very first precursor to what repeats itself at a later time and what will then form the actual starting point of a war, at least by that part which will be started by China, if the thoughts and actions of those responsible don’t change to the better?

Semjase:
72. You know about these things very well and also know that everything will be inevitable; thus, it will, in fact, arrive.

(…)

Billy:
(…) You speak of the prophecies, in which there is talk of the overthrow of the Murderer-Emperor Shah-in-Shah Mohammed Reza Pahlevi, of whom you have, indeed, already spoken, and of the death of the Yugoslavian dictator Tito, who shall pass away in the next three years, when Saturn shines its light on the Earth, and of the invasion of the Soviet-Russian army into Afghanistan at the end of the year 1979, as well as of the re-election of Indira Ghandi as Prime Minister in India and her then following death, which will shake the entire Indian nation, as well as of the alliance of the Americans with various Middle East and Far East countries, to which still the alliance of the Pakistanis with the Chinese comes, along with many other events to be expected…

Analysis

Only the above verses were selected from the 3rd edition contact notes, PPKB 3 (2004), because only the information up to verse 97 was allegedly handed over to Wendelle Stevens on March 9, 1979. The rest of the contact report was only published much later after the events occurred. Along with this information from CR 115, Wendelle was allegedly also informed by Meier about a couple of other events that hadn’t yet occurred (points 6 and 7 below) which were mentioned in Message from the Pleiades, pg. 351-352, 1990, see the ‘Background‘ section at the beginning of CR 115, but he received the part of CR 115 that discussed these events only after they already had occurred.

IOI:

  1. Overthrow of the Shah of Iran, Mohammed Reza Pahlevi and Civil War
  2. Chinese invasion of Vietnam by the end of February, 1979
  3. Death of Yugoslavian dictator Tito within 3 years
  4. Soviet invasion of Afghanistan by the end of 1979
  5. Re-election and death of Indian Prime Minister Indira Ghandhi
  6. Storming of the Iranian Embassy in London by London Police
  7. Abdication of Queen Wilhelmina of the Netherlands in favor of her daughter Beatrix

1. Overthrow of the Shah of Iran, Mohammed Reza Pahlevi and Civil War

Semjase and Meier mention that shortly before the overthrow of the Shah in the new year i.e. in 1979, civil war would break out from February 9-11, 1979. According to this Wikipedia article, the Shah left Iran in exile on January 16, 1979, and it also mentions the following on the civil war, which took place between February 9-11, as mentioned by Meier in contact report 115:

“On February 9 about 10 pm a fight broke out between loyal Immortal Guards and the pro-Khomeini rebel Homafaran element of the Iranian Air Force, with Khomeini declaring jihad on loyal soldiers who did not surrender.[132] Revolutionaries and rebel soldiers gained the upper hand and began to take over police stations and military installations, distributing arms to the public. The final collapse of the provisional non-Islamist government came at 2 pm February 11 when the Supreme Military Council declared itself “neutral in the current political disputes… in order to prevent further disorder and bloodshed.”[133][134] Revolutionaries took over government buildings, TV and radio stations, and palaces of the Pahlavi dynasty.”

These events already occurred before Wendelle received the CR 115 information from Meier on March 9, 1979.

2. Chinese invasion of Vietnam by the end of February, 1979

On 17th February 1979, China sent hundreds of troops into Vietnam after weeks of tension and a military build-up along the border. For more information click here and here. This event had already occurred before Wendelle allegedly received the CR 115 information from Meier on March 9, 1979.

3. Death of Yugoslavian dictator Tito within 3 years

In CR 115, October, 1978 Meier said that the dictator Tito would die within the next 3 years i.e anywhere between 1979-1981, when “Saturn shines its light on the Earth. We do not know what this ‘Saturn’ phrase is supposed to mean but Tito did indeed die within 3 years from 1978, i.e. on May 4, 1980 as reported on Wikipedia:

“Tito became increasingly ill over the course of 1979. During this time Vila Srna was built for his use near Morović in the event of his recovery.[94] On 7 January and again on 11 January 1980, Tito was admitted to the Medical Centre in Ljubljana, the capital city of the SR Slovenia, with circulation problems in his legs. His left leg was amputated soon afterward due to arterial blockages and he died of gangrene at the Medical Centre Ljubljana on 4 May 1980 at 3:05 pm, three days short of his 88th birthday.”

4. Soviet invasion of Afghanistan by the end of 1979

Meier said that Soviet-Russian army will march in or invade Afghanistan by the end of year 1979, according to this timeline of the Soviet war in Afghanistan, the invasion did begin on December 24, 1979.

5. Re-election and death of Indian Prime Minister Indira Ghandhi

Meier said that Indira Gandhi would be elected as Prime Minister of India and later her death would shake the whole nation. According to Wikipedia article, Indira Ghandhi indeed won the election and became the Prime Minister of India for the third time on January 14, 1980 and later on October 30 1984, got assassinated by two of her own bodyguards.

6. Storming of the Iranian Embassy in London by London Police

According to Wikipedia, this event did take place in May 1980.

“The Iranian Embassy siege took place from 30 April to 5 May 1980, after a group of six armed men stormed the Iranian embassy in South Kensington, London. The gunmen took 26 people hostage—mostly embassy staff, but several visitors and a police officer, who had been guarding the embassy, were also held. The hostage-takers, members of an Iranian Arab group campaigning for Arab national sovereignty in the southern region of Khūzestān Province, demanded the release of Arab prisoners from jails in Khūzestān and their own safe passage out of the United Kingdom.[1] The British government quickly resolved that safe passage would not be granted, and a siege ensued. Over the following days, police negotiators secured the release of five hostages in exchange for minor concessions, such as the broadcasting of the hostage-takers’ demands on British television.

By the sixth day of the siege the gunmen had become increasingly frustrated at the lack of progress in meeting their demands. That evening, they killed one of the hostages and threw his body out of the embassy. As a result, the British government ordered the Special Air Service (SAS), a special forces regiment of the British Army, to conduct an assault to rescue the remaining hostages. Shortly afterwards, soldiers abseiled from the roof of the building and forced entry through the windows. During the 17-minute raid, the SAS rescued all but one of the remaining hostages, and killed five of the six terrorists. The soldiers subsequently faced accusations that they unnecessarily killed two of the terrorists, but an inquest into the deaths eventually cleared the SAS of any wrongdoing. The remaining terrorist was prosecuted and served 27 years in British prisons.”

7. Abdication of Queen Wilhelmina of the Netherlands in favor of her daughter Beatrix

The part of CR 115 that Wendelle received later Meier reads the following:

Meier
(…) And what about the Queen of Holland who will abdicate her throne in the Spring of 1980? (BMUFOR note: SKB 8, pg. 1421, 1990 and PPKB 3, pg. 238, 2004 read: “And what about, for example, the Queen of Holland, who should resign, according to my calculations, in the spring of 1980?”)

Semjase
Such harmless things as the Queen’s abdication you may tell.

Meier doesn’t mention the name of the queen of Holland, but on page 351 of MFTP Vol. 2 Stevens erroneously calls here Wilhelmina. Actually it was Queen Juliana who abdicated in 1980 and was succeeded by her daughter Beatrix on April 30, 1980, the same day when the members of an Iranian Arab group seized the Iranian embassy in London. Wilhelmina was the mother of Juliana, who succeeded her as Queen of the Netherlands in 1948.

Conclusion

Apart from the prophecies about the Chinese invasion and the Shah of Iran, the above examples are truly remarkable and would have been potentially strong evidence for Meier’s prophetic capability and for his contacts with ETs. Wendelle also claimed to have shown these prophecies to Major Rudolph Pastalozzi, USAF (Ret.), and Mr. O. Richard Norton, former director of the Flandreau Planetarium at the University of Arizona in Tuscon. For some strange reason nobody, including the pro-Meier groups, has ever attempted to get confirmation and take down the testimonies from Ret. Major Rudolph Pastalozzi, USAF (year?) and Mr. O. Richard Norton (died in 2009) before their deaths , which would have corroborated Wendelle’s account of receiving the above mentioned CR 115 prophecies before they occured. There are many ways which Wendelle could have made sure that the received prophecies were officially dated by a recognized authority, without the need to disclose the information. For example, he could have consulted journalists or skeptics or scientists and then could have made sure that they open and read the information contained in the documents only after the last prophecy would have been fulfilled which was requested of Wendelle by Meier. This could be done by securing the documents in highly, secured lockers in banks or at other trusted places.

Unfortunately he didn’t and as a result, we are left with nothing but Wendelle’s own claims, which were not corroborated by others, and no tangible evidence to support them. Since there are indications that Wendelle Stevens’ recounts of at least some events during his investigation into the Meier case were inaccurate and contradictory to other people’s accounts (although not necessarily on purpose) there is reason to doubt whether his recounts of these events are accurate.

CR 118 (1978)


Plane Crash on Mount Chimborazo

Contact Date: Thursday, December 7, 1978, 3:55 PM
Verifiable Publications: Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 3, pg. 335, 2004
Type of Claims: 100%
Corroborated Article(s) February 20, 2003

Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 3, pg 335, 2004

Billy:
I will. I promise you that. Bye bye… Ah yes, I still have a slip of paper with a question: It was on the 15th of August, 1976, an airplane disappeared in South America, which took off in a city by the name of Quito. Now, the rumor goes that the machine had been abducted by extraterrestrials, as one writes here. It is also written here, however, that there is speculation of a hijacking by a drug cartel. Do you know about what really happened with the airplane?

Quetzal:
52. Yes, the deplorable incident is well-known to us.
53. It neither concerns a hijacking of the flight apparatus by a drug cartel nor an abduction by extraterrestrials.
54. The aircraft crashed at nearly 6,000 meters of altitude into the volcanic mountain Chimborazo in the Andes in Ecuador.
55. There were about 60 human beings on board the flight machine, who all met death upon its crash.

Billy:
I myself thought that the abduction story is nonsense. This remains persistent, however. The proof for the crash of the airplane will probably take time, if clarity is ever created over it at all.

Quetzal:
56. That might actually be questionable because human beings won’t go to the crash site of the aircraft so quickly, unless it would result by a “special stroke of fate”, by what means the debris would be found.

Analysis

The aircraft which disappeared on August 15, 1976 was in fact found in the year 2003, 1 year before Meier published this information in PPKB 3, 2004. However this information was missing in all earlier publications, where the contact simply ended with “I will. I promise you that. Bye bye…”.

Plane crash’s frozen victims found 27 years later – February 19, 2003:

“Investigators yesterday confirmed the recent discovery of the frozen remains of passengers from a missing plane that slammed into Ecuador’s highest mountain nearly three decades ago.

“The parts we have found have been verified and they belong to the plane,” civil aviation investigator Ivan Arellano told reporters, referring to a four-engine Saeta airlines Vickers Viscount plane that vanished on August 15, 1976, with 59 people on board. (…) Army General Luis Aguas said military climbers began an ascent late on Monday of the 6,310-metre Chimborazo volcano, about 125km south of Quito. (…) The mountain climbers stumbled across the wreckage, some 200m below Chimborazo’s peak, while exploring a new route to the volcano’s summit on Saturday.”

CR 123 (1979), CR 150 (1981) & CR 248 (1994)


Comet Shoemaker-Levy 9 impacts Jupiter

Contact Date: Contact Report 123, Pentecost Monday, June 4, 1979, 1:43 AM
Verifiable Publications: Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 3, pg. 388, 2004
Type of Claims: 100%
Corroborated Article(s) None

Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 3, pg. 388, 2004

Billy:
(…) As Quetzal explained, in the year 13384 B.C., an icy small moon was torn out of Jupiter’s orbit by the Destroyer and hurled out into space. Actually, this small moon should have concerned a comet captured by Jupiter. This should now be whizzing through space and should ultimately find its way back to the planet Jupiter. Do you know anything about this?

Semjase:
176. Yes, sure.
177. The small moon mentioned by Quetzal and you actually was, at a very early time, a comet, which was forced by the planet Jupiter into an orbit around it and which was then actually torn away by the Destroyer and brought on a millennia-long course that will bring it back to Jupiter in the year 1994, between the 10th and 25th of July.
178. It will first appear as a comet, only to explode into about 20 pieces, when it approaches the planet Jupiter.
179. Then, within a number of hours, these fragments will all be attracted to the planet one after another and will crash down on it.

Billy:
Then, the comet will surely be discovered by our astronomers.

Semjase:
180. That will certainly be the case.

Contact Date: Contact Report 150, Saturday, the 10th of October 1981, 3:15 AM
Verifiable Publications: Semjase Kontakt Berichte, 2nd ed. Vol. 11, pg. 2139, 1994
Prophetien und Voraussagen, pg. 198-199, 1996
Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 4, pg. 283-284, 2004
Type of Claims: 100%
Corroborated Article(s) July 13, 1994

Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 4, pg. 283-284, 2004

13 384 B.C. – The Destroyer hurtles on a collision course with Jupiter and disturbs its rotation, whereby it rumbles by so close to the outer layers that an enormous storm develops, rotating and extending into the innermost layers. The mass of Jupiter pulls upon the matter of the Destroyer and accumulates a particle and moon ring around itself which will persist for millions of years, together with the primordial particle and moon ring system — already existent since around four billion years — into which the new ring will integrate. The gigantic storm that already developed in the most primeval times on the colossal planet has nothing to do with the Destroyer. Concurrent with the passage of the Destroyer in the Jupiter system, it pulls a small, ancient moon with a diameter of about 4 kilometers out of its orbit and hurls it with immense speed out into the space of the SOL System on an unknown path, accompanied by several smaller asteroids. At first, this moon loses itself in a very distant orbital path, where it then reemerges after a long time and moved through the SOL System — time and time again — until one day, it will be recaptured by Jupiter and will crash down into it with great certainty which, according to our calculations, will be around the time of the turn of the twentieth to the twenty-first century A.D.

Contact Date: Contact Report 248, Thursday, February 3, 1994, 5:04 PM
Verifiable Publications: Prophetien und Voraussagen, pg. 375-376, 1996
Semjase Kontakt Berichte, 2nd ed. Vol. 14, pg. 2733, 1998
Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 7, pg. 225-226, 2005
Type of Claims: 100%
Corroborated Article(s) 1994

Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 7, pg. 225-226, 2005

Billy:
But now, to another question: during the 150th Contact Report, dated Saturday, the 10th of October, 1981, 3:15 AM, Quetzal spoke of the fact that a small moon, about 4 kilometers in diameter, was torn away from Jupiter by the Destroyer in the year 13384 B.C. and was sent on a journey, with which several smaller asteroids followed along. It was then said that this small moon would one day return to its place of origin, even to Jupiter, in order, then, to crash down on it. In addition, now the following: earthly scientists have made the discovery that at present, a small planetoid, about 4 kilometers in diameter, is approaching Jupiter on a collision course, accompanied by several asteroids following it. According to scientific calculations, this small planetoid, which is called Shoemaker-Levy 9, is to crash down on Jupiter in the middle of the year 1994, just beyond the horizon that is visible from the Earth. Is this small planetoid the small moon mentioned by Quetzal, which went on a journey from Jupiter in the year 13384 B.C. and which now “celebrates” its return to its place of origin, or is this another space projectile?

Ptaah:
16. This really is the small moon mentioned by Quetzal, which will arrive into the gravitational field of Jupiter again with great certainty.

Analysis

IOI:

  1. The comet Shoemaker-Levy 9 explodes into about 20 pieces which will impact on Jupiter

This prediction is promoted by Michael Horn as a corroboration of “prophetically accurate scientific information” in his article ‘Proof beyond a reasonable doubt‘.

Stuart Robbins wrote the following about this:

“This next topic is a more difficult one, and it’s one that I don’t like. It’s not that I don’t like it for what it says, but I don’t like it because I think there is evidence of going back and faking one of the contact reports online, and I have not been able to obtain an original to verify or refute my suspicions. I will say this, with full knowledge that I’ll probably be quoted and quote-mined: IF the translation of Contact Report 123 is correct, and IF it is verifiable that the German used for that translation was published before 1992 – and the date on the report is 1979 – then this is a case where Meier was incredibly specific and appears to have forecast something that did happen. But, for reasons I’ll explain momentarily, I have doubts as to the authenticity.

The subject matter is comet Shoemaker-Levy 9’s impact into Jupiter in 1994.

Contact Report 123, as it is currently written and translated online, has the alien Semjase stating that a comet’s orbit “will bring it back to Jupiter in the year 1994, between the 10th and 25th of July. It will first appear as a comet, only to explode into about 20 pieces, when it approaches the planet Jupiter. Then, within a number of hours, these fragments will all be attracted to the planet one after another and will crash down on it.”

That was written, allegedly, on June 4, 1979. Comet Shoemaker-Levy 9 was discovered in 1993, it broke into about 23 main pieces (not 20), and it impacted Jupiter between July 16 and July 22, over the course of 6 days. Now, there are some admittedly very minor differences, like the number of fragments, the exact dates of impact, how big the original body was, and Meier’s whole back-story that I didn’t read to you about a so-called “Destroyer” that ripped it from its original Jovian orbit back in 13,384 B.C. One could quibble about them, but I consider those minor and unimportant IN THIS CASE. The question is, did Meier actually write that back in 1979, 14 years before the discovery by the Shoemakers and Levy?

I don’t think so. I have two main reasons for thinking that this CR, as it currently is reported, is not genuine. And, if someone can show that it is, I would be very interested. And by that I mean I need to see the original book and get an independent translation.

So, why don’t I think this contact report is genuine? It’s because of two later CRs themselves. First is #150, written in October 1981, two years and 4 months after CR 123. CR 150 has a part where Meier is reciting back a timeline. He states:

Concurrent with the passage of the Destroyer in the Jupiter system, it pulls a small, ancient moon with a diameter of about 4 kilometers out of its orbit and hurls it with immense speed out into the space of the SOL System on an unknown path, accompanied by several smaller asteroids.

At first, this moon loses itself in a very distant orbital path, where it then reemerges after a long time and moved through the SOL System — time and time again — until one day, it will be recaptured by Jupiter and will crash down into it with great certainty which, according to our calculations, will be around the time of the turn of the twentieth to the twenty-first century A.D.

To me, that is fairly non-specific. It is basically making a statement that could be claimed as a hit or miss no matter what. It mentions an object 4 km across – which is a normal size for a comet but a very small size for a moon, especially one that formed in orbit around the planet – and it says that this moon will hit Jupiter sometime around the turn of the 21st century. One would be able to say that this could be an unobserved hit if we never saw it, that it did happen, we just didn’t observe it. It lacks any other specifics and is not something I would say is a very strong, very specific prediction. It also does not reference CR 123, which Meier frequently does when he mentions something specific he talked about in a previous CR.

Then we have CR 248 which came out in February 1994, after Shoemaker-Levy 9 was discovered and everything was known about it. Billy talks about it and says this:

During the 150th Contact Report, dated Saturday, the 10th of October, 1981, 3:15 AM, Quetzal spoke of the fact that a small moon, about 4 kilometers in diameter, was torn away from Jupiter by the Destroyer in the year 13384 B.C. and was sent on a journey, with which several smaller asteroids followed along. It was then said that this small moon would one day return to its place of origin, even to Jupiter, in order, then, to crash down on it. In addition, now the following: earthly scientists have made the discovery that at present, a small planetoid, about 4 kilometers in diameter, is approaching Jupiter on a collision course, accompanied by several asteroids following it. According to scientific calculations, this small planetoid, which is called Shoemaker-Levy 9, is to crash down on Jupiter in the middle of the year 1994, just beyond the horizon that is visible from the Earth. Is this small planetoid the small moon mentioned by Quetzal, which went on a journey from Jupiter in the year 13384 B.C. and which now “celebrates” its return to its place of origin, or is this another space projectile?

Ptaah then says that this is indeed the moon talked about in that CR.

Notice that there is zero mention of CR 123. Which allegedly had a lot more specifics in it. Instead, Meier takes great pains to point out that he wrote down on Saturday, October 10, 1981, at 3:15AM, in CR 150, that there would be an object that would hit Jupiter sometime around the turn of the 21st century. But again, he makes ZERO mention of CR 123 where apparently ALL of the important, very specific, data was stated, including the number of fragments, the dates of impact, etc. Not a single mention. It’s also not mentioned in some of the confirmation reports by others of Meier’s material.

Because of that inconsistency, because Meier does not refer back to CR 123 which would seem to be a crowning achievement in prophetic accuracy of this event, I do not think that 123 as it is currently represented is accurate relative to what it stated originally.

I think AT BEST, all that can be said for this particular prediction is that it would seem to be very strong, but there is reasonable evidence to cast doubt on its authenticity.”

As it turns out, the doubts of Stuart Robbins on the authenticity of this alleged corroboration were entirely justified. Although CR 123 was published in 1990 in Semjase Kontakt Berichte, 2nd ed. Vol. 8, the specific information on the Comet Shoemaker-Levy 9 is absent. The CR simply ends with verse 118 (verse 119 in PPKB 3), while the comet Shoemaker-Levy 9 Comet is addressed later in the conversation which was first published in it’s entirety in PPKB 3, 2004. Even more, after verse 119 in PPKB 3 the following note is inserted in the contact report:

(The following information was first made accessible to parts of the core group in the year 2003; until then, no one knew anything about the following conspiracy conversation and action between Semjase and Billy.)

The Shoemaker-Levy 9 information didn’t have anything to do with this conspiracy, so it is not clear why it is also left out. Meier could have just skipped the verses regarding the conspiracy and still publish the verses about Shoemaker-Levy 9 in SKB 8, but he didn’t.

The information from CR 150 was first published in Semjase Kontakt Berichte, 2nd ed. Vol. 11, pg. 2139, 1994, (the publication of SKB 11 was announced in SWZ Nr. 91, pg. 50, June 1994), around the time of the impact of Shoemaker-Levy 9 on Jupiter, but well after it’s discovery on March 24, 1993. This information is part of a timeline of cosmic events related to a wandering planet called the Destroyer which supposedly caused havoc in the solar system on several occasions. Even before the publication of SKB 11 (1994), this timeline was published in Stimme der Wassermannzeit Nr. 49, Jahrgang 9, December 1983 on pages 17-24 in the article ‘Das Universum‘. Yet, for some reason this timeline is significantly different from the timeline in CR 150 in SKB 11, and the information regarding Shoemaker-Levy 9 is completely absent. In CR 150 it is mentioned Meier already got a lot of information regarding the Destroyer from Semjase, but this information contained inaccuracies, therefor Quetzal provided him with the correct information (timeline):

Billy
(…)
Years ago, I already spoke with Semjase several times about the Destroyer, which must be a gigantic comet.
Semjase then gave me a lot of information in relation to this wanderer, but she was not quite sure as to the exact dates regarding the actual times of circulation, and regarding the years of appearance, etc. She told me back then that she was not precisely oriented about everything and that quite possibly, there could be errors in her data.

Quetzal
454. That is correct because these issues are not in her field, and she has never been deeply occupied with them.
455. She took up this information only in passing, which she then passed along to you in a friendly manner, but unfortunately, she somewhat intermingled some data of importance, particularly in issues of time, whereby she somewhat confusingly intertwined different time calculations into one another.
456. It should be noted that four calendars appear that are different and thoroughly divergent from one another, which Semjase has mentioned to you in her explanations but has not explained more closely, which would have been necessary for a full understanding of the issues.
457. In the right way, you should have turned to me for accurate information about this because interests around comets and similar phenomena fall into my learned field of work.
458. But now, this shouldn’t mean that you have been misinformed by Semjase because that isn’t the case.
459. Her information reflects the given facts, but these were mixed with each other due to inexact knowledge.

Billy
That is reassuring, but at least now, can you give me the exact information?

This may have explained the completely different timeline in SWZ 49, were it not that it was published in 1983, 2 years after CR 150 allegedly took place. Even a reprint of SWZ 49 from March 1986 still contains the erroneous timeline. So why would Meier still have published the erroneous timeline, in which the information regarding Shoemaker-Levy 9 is missing, while he supposedly already had the correct version available?

The information from CR 248 was only first published in Prophetien und Voraussagen, pg. 198, 1996, and later in PPKB 7, 2005.

So in short: apparently nothing was verifiably published by Meier about Shoemaker-Levy 9 before it was discovered by scientists.

CR 131 (1980)


Causes of Natural disasters & Severe Weather

Contact Date: Sunday, June 15, 1980, 1:05 AM
Verifiable Publications: Semjase Kontakt Berichte, 2nd ed. Vol. 9, pg. 1709-1710, 1991
Prophetien und Voraussagen, pg. 118, 1996
Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 3, pg. 487-488, 2004
Type of Claims: 100%
Corroborated Article(s) None

Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 3, pg. 487-488, 2004

Billy:
And, how is the weather on Erra? Do you have anything better thereof?

Semjase:
29. With us, there is no severe weather and there are no natural disasters, such as are common in the current time on Earth.

Billy:
I can imagine that, because our weather disasters and natural disasters are not all as natural as they usually look. I know that they are mostly caused by the human beings themselves.

Semjase:
30. That is of correctness, even if the terrestrial scientists and other responsible persons and know-it-alls deny this fact.
31. The human being of Earth is to blame for about 50% of all severe weather and natural disasters on the Earth at the present time.

Billy:
I know. In the main and in first place, the atom bombs are to blame for this, then in second place is chemistry with all of its products, exhaust gases and wastes, then in third place are the aircraft and, therefore, the airlines and the armies, then automobiles and industries as well as the whole of humankind with all environmentally destructive evils.

Semjase:
32. So stands the sequence in the approximate, yes.
33. But as it also always is, the fact is today that through the fault of the whole of terrestrial humankind, much of the mainland will slowly but surely become a water-infested marsh and swamp, in which disease and death will reign.

Billy:
You mean because of the rain?

Semjase:
34. Not only because of this rain, no, but because the natural climate has been destroyed through the fault of the human beings of Earth, and the Earth has already been over-saturated with rain for decades, as will also happen, however, in the coming time in even worse measures.

Billy:
You mean that the Earth will drown in the water or in the rain?

Semjase:
35. So it will come approximately, through the fault of the human being of Earth himself.

Billy:
And nothing can be done against it, I know, because the human beings of this world neither let themselves be taught, nor do they want to change.

Semjase:
36. That’s right.

Analysis

IOI:

  1. Humans are responsible for 50% of all severe weather and natural disasters at the present time (1980)
  2. Causes for these disasters are arranged in order based on their effect (from high to low)
    1. Atom bombs
    2. Chemistry with all of its products, exhaust gases and wastes
    3. Aircraft, armies, automobiles, industries and environmental destruction by humans

What is interesting to note is that in earlier publications – SKB 9, 2nd ed., pg. 1709, 1991 and PuV, pg. 118, 1996, there is no mention of a percentage figure of 50%:

31. An den meisten bösen Unwettern und Naturkatastrophen auf der Erde und zur heutigen Zeit trägt der Erdenmensch dafür die Schuld.
31. The human being of Earth is to blame for most of all severe weather and natural disasters on the Earth at the present time.

Even if we consider the 50% figure, we have not been able to find any percentages on the human account of all severe weather and natural disasters in the 1980’s to corroborate this. Considering the complexity and the countless factors influencing extreme weather and natural disasters one can imagine that the ‘human factor’ would be very difficult to quantify.

Again this is non-specific and open-ended because in the scientific community it is generally considered that natural disasters like earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, landslides etc. are for the most part not influenced by human activity but are considered to be natural phenomena with natural causes.

Regarding the causes Meier mentions for the severe weather and natural disasters: he lists atom bombs as the primary cause which according to this website Skeptical Science is not the primary factor at all. The other causes were already known by 1980. So at present Meier’s information is either not corroborated by science, was already known or is simply to general and non-specific to ever be considered clear evidence for extraordinary predictive capabilities.

CR 134 & 135 (1980)


Iran-Iraq War of 1980 and Two USA-Iraq Wars of 1990s & 2003

Contact Date: Contact Report 134, Wednesday, August 13, 1980, 11:16 PM
Verifiable Publications: Semjase Kontakt Berichte, 2nd ed. Vol. 9, pg. 1729-1730, 1991
Prophetien und Voraussagen, pg. 119, 1996
Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 4, pg. 9, 2004
Type of Claims: 100%
Corroborated Article(s) None

Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 4, pg. 9, 2004

Ptaah:
5. (…) in the coming time, we will be busy with monitoring functions relating to serious future earthly affairs.

Billy:
Do you mean the rising military conflicts in the Middle East?

Ptaah:
6. That is correct, we will be very taken up by the imminent outbreak of war between the countries Iran and Iraq, which will produce bad consequences and will not be the end of the wars in the Persian Gulf because at the beginning of the 90’s, another war will follow, a multinational war provided by the U.S. Army and Iraq.
7. This war will be followed by a second war released by the U.S.A. against Iraq in 2003.
8. In the coming times, it will become more and more obvious through the U.S.A. that America craves world domination.

Billy:
To my knowledge, the first war should unfold near the beginning of September of this year, right?

Ptaah:
9. That is correct, but keep this officially silent up to that time.
10. You can only talk about this in the closest group circle.

Billy:
I have no interest in making any of these matters open.

Contact Date: Contact Report 135, Thursday, October 9, 1980, 7:44 PM
Verifiable Publications: Semjase Kontakt Berichte, 2nd ed. Vol. 9, pg. 1737-1738, 1991
Prophetien und Voraussagen, pg. 121, 1996
Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 4, pg. 38, 2004
Type of Claims: 100%
Corroborated Article(s) None

Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 4, pg. 38, 2004

Billy:
And how does it stand with Iraq and Iran, which bloodily fight each other?

Semjase:
13. This war between brothers will continue even further with unabated violence and will throw the whole world into a very bad crisis.
14. And as I already told you before, there will be no real winner upon completion of the war, and in later years, more murderous and destructive wars will take place in Iraq by the fault of the Americans and the Iraqi dictator.

Billy:
I know that, but couldn’t you also tell me something about the other upcoming events?

Semjase:
15. Today, the time is not sufficient, but I do want to inform you about the other events that are coming within the course of next week.

Analysis

IOI:

  1. Iran-Iraq war would start in September 1980
  2. USA-Iraq war in 1990s and again in the year 2003

1. Iran-Iraq war would start in September 1980

In CR 134, Ptaah tells Meier in verses 9 and 10 that he was not supposed to reveal this sensitive information on the upcoming Iran-Iraq war that would start in September 1980 to the public, except to his closest group if he wants to. Accordingly Meier didn’t publish any of this information before the war occurred and perhaps not even disclosed it to his closest group since there were no claims of foreknowledge on this information from members of this group later. The information in both CR 134 and CR 135 on the Iraq-Iran war was only published for the first time in Semjase Kontakt Berichte, 2nd ed. Vol. 9, 1991.

2. USA-Iraq war in early 1990s and again in the year 2003

We have noticed that new information (underlined parts) has been added to both the CR 134 and CR 135 in PPKB 4, 2004:

Contact Report 134 (1980)

Semjase Kontakt Berichte, 2nd ed. pg. 1729, Vol 9, 1991

Billy:
Do you mean the rising military conflicts in the Middle East?

Ptaah:
6. That is correct, we will be very taken up by the imminent outbreak of war between the countries Iran and Iraq.

Billy:
To my knowledge, the war should unfold near the beginning of September of this year, right?

Ptaah:
7. That is correct, but keep this officially silent up to that time.

Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 4, pg. 9, 2004

Billy:
Do you mean the rising military conflicts in the Middle East?

Ptaah:
6. That is correct, we will be very taken up by the imminent outbreak of war between the countries Iran and Iraq, which will produce bad consequences and will not be the end of the wars in the Persian Gulf because at the beginning of the 90’s, another war will follow, a multinational war provided by the U.S. Army and Iraq.
7. This war will be followed by a second war released by the U.S.A. against Iraq in 2003.
8. In the coming times, it will become more and more obvious through the U.S.A. that America craves world domination.

Billy:
To my knowledge, the first war should unfold near the beginning of September of this year, right?

Ptaah:
9. That is correct, but keep this officially silent up to that time.

Contact Report 135 (1980)

Semjase Kontakt Berichte, 2nd ed. Vol. 9, pg. 1738, 1991

Semjase:
(…)
14. And as I already told you before, there will be no real winner upon completion of the war.

Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 4, pg. 38, 2004

Semjase:
(…)
14. And as I already told you before, there will be no real winner upon completion of the war, and in later years, more murderous and destructive wars will take place in Iraq by the fault of the Americans and the Iraqi dictator.

Judging from the context, it is understandable that Meier has his own valid and logical reasons for not prematurely disclosing this information on the USA-Iraq wars of the early 1990s and 2003. But what is interesting is that if Meier was really told about the early 1990s USA-Iraq war back in 1980, then one would expect it being mentioned in both CR 134 and CR 135, since SKB 9, 2nd ed. was published in the middle of the year 1991 (see SWZ Nr. 79, pg. 19, June 1991), several months after USA began its attack against Iraq in January 1991. As it turns out, there is no mention of the early 1990s USA-Iraq war in it. Why?

If Meier was really told about these wars back in 1980, then there are many ways to indirectly mention them in his CRs without the need to disclose any specific details (which Meier/Plejaren say that if these were to be disclosed, it would have a negative impact on the world) before they occurred. But there is no such evidence at all which otherwise would have suggested that these wars indeed might have been predicted years ago in 1980.

CR 134 (1980) & CR 229 (1989)


Collapse of Mayan Civilization

Contact Date: Contact Report 134, Wednesday, August 13, 1980, 11:16 PM
Verifiable Publications: Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 4, pg. 34, 2004
Type of Claims: 100%
Corroborated Article(s) March 19, 2003

Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 4, pg. 34, 2004

Billy:
This information is sufficient. Then still this: Guido asked me whether I knew the reason for the disappearance of the Mayan culture. Do you know anything about that?

Quetzal:
57. One reason was very strong climatic changes, which extended approximately over 230 years.
58. A time during which the Yucatan Peninsula, where the actual Mayan culture was settled, was hit by many droughts, which cost many people’s lives or forced them into migration.
59. Another reason was tribal wars and acts of war with foreign Indian tribes.
60. Also, many people were carried off by epidemics, not only in the actual central area of the Maya but also in all the other areas where the Maya resided, such as in the areas of Belize, Honduras, and Guatemala, etc.
61. The total population of all the Mayan tribes added together was about 17 million people.
62. During those approximately 230 years of natural and environmental disasters, the epidemics and wars to which the Maya were exposed resulted in the fact that these indigenous peoples and families of languages disappeared in southern Mesoamerica, southern Mexico and northern Mexico, Guatemala, Belize, and Honduras.

Contact Date: Contact Report 229, Monday, July 31, 1989
Verifiable Publications: Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 5, pg. 484-486, 2004
Type of Claims: 100%
Corroborated Article(s) June 6, 2003

Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 5, pg. 484-486, 2004

Billy:
(…) Then here’s another question regarding the advanced culture of the Mayans and their extinction or downfall, respectively. Can you report about this? I suppose that you have knowledge about the history of the Mayans, don’t you agree?

Quetzal:
21. I have, in fact, occupied myself with it and know some things about these concerns, at least the things that are known to us in general.
22. The Mayas are Indian people and language families in southern Mesoamerica.
38. In those times the Maya were the holders of very highly advanced culture whose heyday began about 300 years after Jmmanuel’s birth and was lasting for about 460 years, before they – because of climatic changes – were befallen by drought catastrophes that wreaked havoc over the land and claimed 14,392,108 lives in only as much as 150 years.
39. 1550 years after Jmmanuel’s birth, the Maya culture found its total end through the Spanish conquests, whereby the conquerors committed terrible inhumaneness, murder, crimes of all kinds and cruelties without an end.
40. And all of this was done in the name of the Spanish royal house as well as in the name of God and, therefore, in the name of the Christian religion.
41. Well, at that time there happened a spatial relocation of the cultural heyday from the South to the North, which lead to the last end of the classical Maya culture.
42. That actual relocation and the actual reason for the downfall of the Maya culture can be traced back to earlier causes that were not within the power of the Spaniards.
43. Actually, forces of nature were responsible for the final fall, i.e. gigantic natural catastrophes through droughts, but also through epidemics, famine and wars.
44. The most powerful causes were three drought periods back in the year 754 after Jmmanuel’s birth the first one began, slowly developed and later – after about 50 years – became the first drought catastrophe that lasted about 10 years.
45. Because of the severity of that drought, famines spread over wide areas, which claimed many deaths.
46. No longer in control because of hunger, children and old people were killed to serve as food, as had also been the case in the land of Egypt, when droughts and famines ruled.
47. There were only about 40 years after the great drought, when the land and the people could recover somewhat, until another heavy drought covered the land and when the same evil became the order of the day again, as had been the case during the first drought.
48. This period of drought did not last as long as the first one, because after a little bit more than four years it ended.
49. But also during this drought many human beings died, and again human beings were killed and eaten, mainly children and old persons, as had been the case during the first drought.
50. As the land was recovering very slowly after the first drought and did not become fully usable for the cultivation of food, everything became even worse after the second drought.
51. That part of the soil that was still usable brought forth even less food, and so the people were living in want and had to live frugally during the following years and decades, until a third drought period broke over the land that lasted for another nearly seven years.
52. And once again, as a last solution for the hungry people, they killed and ate their children and old people.
53. Finally this last great catastrophe led to the break-down of the advanced Maya culture and brought its final ruin.

Analysis

IOI:

  1. Mayan Civilization ended because of droughts, epidemics and wars
  2. Three major droughts occurred between the 8th and 10th century

In the PPKB blocks 4 and 5 news articles from 2003 are included as corroborations for the information from  CR 134 (1980) and CR 229 (1989) on the Mayan culture collapse-drought connection. Michael Horn also published this alleged corroboration as “prophetically accurate scientific information” on this page.

But as it turns out a big part of the complete CR 134, including the information about the Mayan collapse, is missing in Semjase Kontakt Berichte, 2nd ed. Vol. 9, 1991 and was only first published in PPKB 4 in 2004. This seems to have been intentionally as in PPKB 4 the following line was inserted before the part of the CR that was missing in SKB 9:

(The following information was first made available to part of the core group in 2003; until then, nobody knew anything about the following conspiracy conversation and activities between Semjase, Ptaah, Quetzal, and Billy.)

CR 229 is missing in it’s entirety in the Semjase Kontakt Berichte and was only first published in year 2004 in PPKB 5.

The newspaper article which was published in PPKB 4 as a corroboration of Meier’s claims is from March 19, 2003. The article itself is based on the findings of a paper published in Science Magazine on March 14, 2003. Decades before the year 2004, the information mentioned by Meier had already been suggested and the findings were published many times in various science papers and popular news articles. Wikipedia reads:

“Some 88 different theories or variations of theories attempting to explain the Classic Maya Collapse have been identified.[5] From climate change to deforestation to lack of action by Mayan kings, there is no universally accepted collapse theory, although drought is gaining momentum as the leading explanation.[6]”

“The disease theory is also a contender as a factor in the Classic Maya Collapse. Widespread disease could explain some rapid depopulation, both directly through the spread of infection itself and indirectly as an inhibition to recovery over the long run. According to Dunn (1968) and Shimkin (1973), infectious diseases spread by parasites are common in tropical rainforest regions, such as the Maya lowlands. Shimkin specifically suggests that the Maya may have encountered endemic infections related to American trypanosomiasis, Ascaris, and some enteropathogens that cause acute diarrheal illness.”

“Climatic factors were first implicated in the Collapse as early as 1931 by Mayanists Thomas Gann and J.E.S. Thompson.[18] In The Great Maya Droughts, Richardson Gill gathers and analyzes an array of climatic, historical, hydrologic, tree ring, volcanic, geologic, lake bed, and archeological research, and demonstrates that a prolonged series of droughts probably caused the Classic Maya Collapse.[19] The drought theory provides a comprehensive explanation, because non-environmental and cultural factors (excessive warfare, foreign invasion, peasant revolt, less trade, etc.) can all be explained by the effects of prolonged drought on Classic Maya civilization.[20]

Regarding the contribution of warfare in the collapse, the following is the excerpt from The Ancient Maya (4th edition, 1983) by Sylvanus Griswold Morley:

“Internal warfare as a factor in the Classic collapse has been advanced by G. Cowgill (1979). Evidence for conflict is provided by walled centers. The striking portrayal of warfare in the Bonampak murals may be found in Ruppert, Thompson & Proskouriakoff (1955). Epigraphic evidence for a Late Classic conflict between Copan & Quirigua, first pointed out by Proskouriakoff (1973), is summarized and presented with supportive archaeological evidence by Sharer (1978).

Sabloff (1973) discusses the recent rise in popularity of external theories for the Classic Maya collpase (see also Erasmus 1968). Foreign invastion has been proposed by G. Cowgill (1964), and in the specific case of Altar de Sacrificios, by Adams (1973). Sabloff & Willey (1967) provide the definitive discussion of the postulated role of invasion in the collapse, using Seibal as a case study.”

The information in CR 229 on the “phases of three major droughts” being the main reason for the collapse of Mayan civilization was only published in 2004. But already 4 years before i.e. in the year 2000, archaeologist Richardson Benedict Gill had published the same:

In 1995, archaeologist Richardson Benedict Gill used the last dates carved on monuments in cities to identify four periods when the abandonment of Mayan cities had occurred, in clusters:
a.) The pre-Classic abandonment’s of 150–200 AD.
b.) The Hiatus of 530– 590 AD.
c.) The main period of collapse ~ the Classic period: 8th/9th Centuries
d.) The Post Classic abandonments, centred on 1450 AD.Most of the Maya city abandonments had occurred during the Classic period. Gill argued that during this there had been three distinct phases of collapse, these ended at 810, 860 and 910 AD. (The last recorded Long Count date [at Itzimte] is 910 AD). Gill’s deeply researched case was that drought was the cause each time, that the Maya city states were unable to withstand such droughts and that meteorological conditions at that time explained such droughts; his research and conclusions were published as a book in 2000 AD. (The Great Mayan Droughts. Water, Life, and Death. R. B. Gill. University of New Mexico Press. 2000.)”

CR 134 (1980)


Origin of Toxoplasmosis Disease

Contact Date: Wednesday, August 13, 1980, 11:16 PM
Verifiable Publications: Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 4, pg. 35-36, 2004
Type of Claims: 100%
Corroborated Article(s) March 12, 2003

Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 4, pg. 35-36, 2004

Billy:
(…) It concerns the toxoplasmosis disease. This is an illness that is transferred from cats to humans, as well as from contaminated raw or not well-cooked meat of animals and birds as well as fish that came into contact with the toxoplasmosis pathogens through contaminated cat excrement. Fish and birds, for example, because they received food that was contaminated in this regard, which is also the case with most diverse mammals. But a person can also, through direct contact with cats, be infected with the toxoplasmosis pathogens, for example, in that he can be licked by the animal or come in contact with the mouth or fur in which the toxoplasmosis parasite may have been caught, etc. The question, now, is this: how long can one expect that this evil will affect the people of Earth?

Ptaah:
205. We do not know that exactly; however, we are certain of the beginning, when the earth people added to themselves domestic animals, which was the case about 14,000 years ago.
206. There were animals already being kept by Earth humans when they still did not know of domestic buildings.
207. Thus, we have evidence that already more than 290,000 years ago, humans kept certain animals that they used for their protection or use.

Analysis:

IOI:

  1. Toxoplasmosis disease has been affecting humans since 14,000 years ago

In PPKB 4 a news article is included in the contact report as as a corroboration of Meier’s information from CR 134 (1980). Michael Horn also presents this as “prophetically accurate scientific informationhere. However this information was in the part of CR 134 that was missing in Semjase Kontakt Berichte, 2nd ed. Vol. 9, 1991, so it was first published in PPKB 4, 2004.

In 2003, 1 year before PPKB 4 was published, scientists from Washington University School Of Medicine found out that a unique combination of genes inherited less than 10,000 years ago (a difference of 4,000 years compared to Meier’s information) allows the parasite responsible for Toxoplasmosis to infect virtually all warm-blooded animals. This is in the time period in which humans began domesticating animals. During that period, animal species such as cats and rodents came into close contact with each other and humans, all of which likely increased the frequency of sexual reproduction among Toxoplasma strains.

CR 135 & 136 (1980)


El Asnam Earthquake of 1980

Contact Date: Contact Report 135, Thursday, October 9, 1980, 7:44 PM
Verifiable Publications: Semjase Kontakt Berichte, 2nd ed. Vol. 9, pg. 1736-1737, 1992
Prophetien und Voraussagen, pg. 119-121, 1996
Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 4, pg. 37-38, 2004
Type of Claims: 100% & not 100%
Corroborated Article(s) October 10, 1980

Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 4, 37-38, 2004

Semjase:
2. (…) now listen to what I have to tell you because I have a lot of work to do in the next few hours, so I only have a short time to talk today.

Billy:
Your voice sounds so strange, as if something dreadful will happen again. I know this tone of yours already too well.

Semjase:
3. Certainly, it is as you say.
4. But surely, you have already calculated these coming events long ago.

Billy:
Unfortunately, I could not deal with the calculations lately for psychological reasons, so I do not know what events should now fall upon the Earth again or upon any part of it.

Semjase:
5. By way of insinuation, we once talked about this.

Billy:
But I do not remember at the moment.

Semjase:
6. Al Asnam.

Billy:
Al Asnam – Al Asnam… oh – yes, this is the city in Algeria that should be destroyed by at least 80% as a result of an earthquake… I think, if I remember correctly, this should be in the autumn of this year?

Semjase:
7. Certainly.
8. Tomorrow, during the midday hours, the inevitable will be fulfilled.

Billy:
And now you go back to the kidneys. I understand. It hits me again and again, even though I am actually far from the events. And when I consider that the main part of the people of the Earth bears the guilt for these things, I could explode in anger. If I remember correctly, then it will crash again tomorrow so hard that roughly half a hundred thousand people will die within just 30 seconds.

Semjase:
9. Unfortunately, that is the truth.
10. It will be one of the strongest quakes to shake Algeria, as only seldom before.

Billy:
That, I do not know, but it will certainly be the case if you say so.
Semjase:
11. And still, the Earth-minded people will not become more thinking, especially not those who truly bear the guilt for this, namely the scientists and the governments.

Billy:
They deny their guilt; that is quite clear. They vehemently advocate the crazy assertion that it concerns purely natural processes. Only in Japan, the scientists seem to have become smarter, at least with regard to the whole climate change and the resulting air and land pollution.

Semjase:
12. That is well-known to me.

Contact Date: Contact Report 136, Tuesday, October 14, 1980, 11:41 PM
Verifiable Publications: Semjase Kontakt Berichte, 2nd ed. Vol. 9, pg. 1753, 1992
Prophetien und Voraussagen, pg. 128-129, 1996
Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 4, 59-60, 2004
Type of Claims: not 100%
Corroborated Article(s) None

Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 4, pg. 59-60, 2004

Semjase:
161. After the presidential election in America, the next world-changing event will be that in Italy, the next major earthquake after Al Asnam will occur, to which 4,000 Earth people will fall victim.
162. This quake will occur in the areas of the southwest, south, and southeast, as well as east of the Vesuvius volcano, causing immense damage to the buildings.
163. The first major quake, having great destructive power and causing thousands of deaths, will result towards the end of the month of November of this year, after which then, over long periods of time, new tremblings of the Earth will drive the populations into fear, as this will also be the case in Al Asnam, where for the first time, the Earth will no longer come completely to rest, and 50 to 80 earthquakes will roll daily through the soil.
164. In Al Asnam, the number of deaths will, indeed, be a thousand times higher than what will happen in Italy, but a greater danger awaits this in the boot country.

Analysis

Type of Claim:

CR 135 contains both ‘100%’ and ‘not 100%’ claims; the Al Asnam earthquake itself was said to be inevitable (see verse 8), while the rest of of the information about this event, like the amount of destruction and the number of deaths, was forecasted by probability calculations (see verse 4).

IOI:

  1. A huge earthquake will hit Al Asnam (Algeria) during mid-day in the autumn of 1980 on October 10
  2. 80% of city will be destroyed by the earthquake and about 50,000 people will die within 30 seconds
  3. The number of deaths in Al Asnam will be a thousand times higher than the number of deaths in the 1980 Italy earthquake, which is 4000 (see CR 136, verse 161)

The 1980 Al Asnam (or El Asnam) earthquake occurred on October 10, 1980, 12:24 GMT, just a day after Meier’s alleged contact with Semjase. This information wasn’t published before the event and just like other sensitive information it may have only been intended for Meier and some inner group members. This article from The Christian Science Monitor, published on October 17, 1980 said the following regarding the destruction of the city:

“Some journalists say this town was 80 percent destroyed,” an Algerian government official told me while we were walking through the town. “

A report titled ‘El-Asnam, Algeria Earthquake October 10, 1980: A Reconnaissance and Engineering Report (January 1983)‘ says the following:

“To reiterate, most of the damage observed resulted from the response of structures to ground shaking. The most dramatic damage and widespread destruction from this earthquake occurred in the downtown area of El-Asnam. El-Asnam was a modern city, as noted in section 1.6, because the majority of the buildings were built after the destructive earthquake of 1954. Close to 80 percent of the buildings in this area failed – collapsed or suffered such severe damage that they had to be demolished.”

Regarding the death toll: according to CR 135 the number of deaths would be about 50,000, but according to Semjase in CR 136, verse 164, the death toll of the Al Asnam earthquake would be ‘a thousand times higher’ than the death toll of the earthquake in Italy of 4,000 (according to the USGS website, the official death toll of the Italy earthquake is 2,735). This would be no less then four million deaths (1,000 x 4,000 = 4,000,000)! However the total population of Al Asnam’s town center, suburbs and near by rural areas combined only comes to around 250,000 and the total population of affected area comes to 900,000, so a death toll of 4 million would be impossible. This would be a nonsensical claims so let’s assume that Semjase only said ‘a thousand times higher’ as a figure of speech and she actually meant ‘a lot higher’. Still, a death toll of 50,000 people is an order of magnitude higher than any final ‘terrestrial’ estimations.

According to the USGS website, only about 5,000 people were killed from the Al Asnam earthquake whose magnitude was recorded as 7.7 on the Richter scale. This 5,000 figure is 10 times less than Meier’s figure of 50,000. The final estimates of the death toll vary, dependent on the source. According to Wikipedia  the death toll was 3,50o, but this source says that it was only around 2,500.

In PPKB 4, 2004, a small excerpt from the book ‘Chronik der Weltgeschichte‘ (1980) was published along the passage in CR 135 about the Al Asnam earthquake. Translated into English it says the following:

“In a major earthquake in the region around the North Algerian town of El Asnam least 22,000 people are killed and 44,000 injured. 380,000 are homeless.”Al Asnam earthquake

However, the following is an excerpt from an article from the Youngstown Vindicator from October 15, 1980 which says that the death toll was changed from the initial estimates of 20,000 to somewhere between 5,000-10,000.

“The Algerian Red Crescent relief society estimated earlier that as many as 20,000 people may have been killed. But Vittani said that may have been an exaggeration. The International Red Cross scaled down the estimate of the maximum death toll from 20,000 to 10,000. (…) Jurg Vittani, director of relief supplies for the League of Red Cross Societies, said after a tour of the devastated area he estimated that the final death toll would be between 5,000 and 10,000.”

It seems the information from ‘Chronik Der Weltgeschichte‘ was based on the initial estimations of the death toll, right after the earthquake happened, which were shortly thereafter revised from from 10,000-20,000 to 5,000-10,000. This is nothing unusual, practically all estimations of death tolls etc. made right after a disaster happened are later revised. Interestingly, the latest edition of Die große Chronik Weltgeschichte – Band 18 (2008) still contains the same erroneous estimate.

But why would Meier/FIGU, even after 25 years (from 1980), still present the erroneous report from Chronik Der Weltgeschichte, when it was known at least by October 15, 1980 that the final death toll would be between 5,000-10,000 and it was also known by at least late 1980 and early 1981 that the death toll comes to around 5,000 or even less? One cannot escape the impression this excerpt was presented because it was a lot closer to Meier’s figure than any of the later estimations. Of course it could be argued that the technology of the Plejaren (also described in CR 370, where it was used to determine the death toll of the 2004 Indian ocean earthquake and tsunami catastrophe) is way more accurate in determining the number of death than any means available on Earth, that the real death toll was downplayed and covered up etc. We do not have the means available to prove or disprove such hypotheses, so we are left with the remarkable notion that Meier’s estimate of the death toll is an order of magnitude higher than any of the final ‘terrestrial’ estimations.

CR 136 (1980)


Prophecies & predictions up to October, 1981

Contact Date: Wednesday, August 13, 1980, 11:16 PM
Verifiable Publications: Prophetien, pg. 117-162, 1982
Semjase Kontakt Berichte, 2nd ed. Vol. 9, pg. 1752-1800, 1992
Semjase Kontakt Berichte, 2nd ed. Vol. 10, pg. 1801-1937, 1993
Prophetien und Voraussagen, pg. 121-161, 1996
Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 4, pg. 48-128, 2004
Type of Claims: Not 100%
Corroborated Article(s) Miscellaneous – refer to PPKB 4, 2004

Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 4, 2004

Analysis

The prophetic or predictive information from CR 136 is to much to address here in detail, so we have just listed the topics that were discussed. All of this information was only published after the events occurred, for the first time in Prophetien, 1982.

Nations:

Persons:

Events:

Divorce and Death of Princess Diana

Contact Date: Wednesday, August 13, 1980, 11:16 PM
Verifiable Publications: Prophetien, pg. 135, 1982
Semjase Kontakt Berichte, 2nd ed. Vol. 9, pg. 1780-1781, 1992
Prophetien und Voraussagen, pg. 137-138, 1996
Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 4, pg. 72-73, 2004
Type of Claims: Not 100%
Corroborated Article(s) Miscellaneous – refer to PPKB 4, 2004

Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 4, pg. 72-73, 2004

Semjase:
(…)
252. On the whole, the entire year of 1981 holds a great deal of uncertain factors, which is why very precise numerical data can only be made on rare occasions, just as in other cases, which do not allow themselves to have absolute certainty as to whether a particular event will arrive now or not.
253. This, however, exclusively applies to events which have direct reference to people.
254. This is so only because in particular, the year 1981, in reference to the actions of people, will be controlled by such persons whose material consciousness and brains exhibit damages, which will lead to arbitrary, hot-tempered, and unpredictable actions.
255. This will also be the case with Prince Charles of England, who will become engaged to a certain Diana Francis Spencer, which will then lead to a marriage in the first half of the year if these plans are not wavered again by the instability of this man.
256. On the other hand, it would be very beneficial if Prince Charles would not marry this girl because when this marriage is actually realized, it will not run a happy course, especially not for Diana, who under the prevailing craze, adultery, intemperance, capriciousness, and other emotional outbursts of the Prince, will have to suffer with difficulty, which will try to be concealed for a long time by the royal house by all means, until everything becomes official and a divorce takes place on August 28, 1996, according to which one year later, Diana will suffer a fatal accident in Paris.

Analysis

IOI:

  1. Engagement and marriage of Prince Charles of England to Diana Francis Spencer in the first half of 1981
  2. Divorce due to adultery and other reasons will take place on August 28, 1996
  3. Diana will die in an accident in Paris in 1997

1. Engagement and marriage of Prince Charles of England to Diana Francis Spencer in the first half of 1981

On February 24, 1981 Prince Charles and Diana ended months of speculation with the announcement of their marriage, which would take place on July 29, 1981. The earliest publication of this information by Meier was only in Prophetien, pg. 135 which was published one year after the marriage in 1982.

2. Due to adultery and other reasons divorce will take place in August 28, 1996 – 3. Diana will die in an accident in Paris in 1997

In Stimme der Wassermannzeit, Nr. 83/1 Aktuell, Jahrgang 16, published in June 1992, the article – In Memoriam: Erfüllung einer Voraussage von Semjase (In Memoriam: Fulfillment of a prediction by Semjase) – was published. Although no newspaper articles were included in SWZ Nr. 83/1, the article was likely referring to the rumors of divorce already circulating around that time and, especially after a controversial book – Diana, Her true story – was published by the author Andrew Morton on January 1, 1992. Also in ‘Aus den Tiefen des Weltenraums – Kontakte mit den Plejadiern/Plejaren‘, pg. 170, 1997 (so published after the divorce was finalized on August 28, 1996), Meier cites this prediction.

Prophetien (1982) was published long before 1992 and indeed it says that the marriage between Prince Charles and Diana would not run happily. Nevertheless this is rather general and it’s questionable to say the least whether this is evidence for an extraordinary prediction. This link documents the past relationships and breakups which Prince Charles had with several women before marrying Diana in 1981, so this ‘track record’ of Charles’ relationships made the probability that the relationship and marriage with the much younger Diana would also not run happily a lot higher.

Regarding the forecast on Diana’s death, it is understandable that foreknowledge of specific details (date and cause) of important and dramatic events in a person’s life are withheld from the public. This has indeed been the case, as the information on Diana’s death was only published in PPKB 4, 2004. In PPKB 4 ‘adultery’ was also added to the list of causes leading to the divorce. All earlier publications only contain the following information:

248. Andererseits wäre es sehr gut, wenn Prinz Charles dieses Mädchen nicht ehelichen würde, denn kommt die Heirat tatsächlich zustande, dann wird diese Ehe nicht glücklich verlaufen, insbesondere nicht für Diana, die unter der Herrschsucht, der Unbeherrschtheit, der Launenhaftigkeit und den sonstigen emotionellen Ausbrüchen des Prinzen schwer zu leiden haben wird, was aber selbstverständlich vom Königshaus mit allen Mitteln verheimlicht zu werden versucht wird.

248. On the other hand, it would be very beneficial if Prince Charles would not marry this girl because when this marriage is actually realized, it will not run a happy course, especially not for Diana, who under the prevailing craze, intemperance, capriciousness, and other emotional outbursts of the Prince, will have to suffer with difficulty, which will try to be concealed for a long time by the royal house by all means.

In PPKB 4, 2004, this verse was extended with additional information:

256. On the other hand, it would be very beneficial if Prince Charles would not marry this girl because when this marriage is actually realized, it will not run a happy course, especially not for Diana, who under the prevailing craze, adultery, intemperance, capriciousness, and other emotional outbursts of the Prince, will have to suffer with difficulty, which will try to be concealed for a long time by the royal house by all means, until everything becomes official and a divorce takes place on August 28, 1996, according to which one year later, Diana will suffer a fatal accident in Paris.

Why wasn’t ‘adultery’ included in the initial forecast, published for the first time in Prophetien, 1982? Perhaps the reason could be that Prince Charles’ adultery only came to light after the book Diana: A Princess and her trouble marriage by Nicholas Davies was published in June 1992 (in which the relationship between Prince Charles and his long time ‘confidante’ Camilla Parker Bowles was also described), although Prince Charles only admitted adultery perhaps for the first time in 1994 in a TV documentary.

Or maybe Meier was hesitant to be the first to make accusations of adultery against prince Charles without being able to prove it, which could potentially have lead to legal measures against him. However in several other instances where sensitive information was left out of verses, only to be published later in the Plejadisch-plejarische Kontaktberichte, the sensitive information is replaced by empty space/dots. This is not the case for the word adultery in the respective verse.

In summary, if Meier really received the information regarding Diana’s marriage, divorce and death which was fully published for the first time in PPKB 4, it is understandable that some of this information was withheld from the public until everything was fulfilled. But as a result, we have no tangible evidence that Meier really had that foreknowledge.

Mount Vesuvius extends beneath the city of Rome & WW III

Contact Date: Contact Report 136, Wednesday, August 13, 1980, 11:16 PM
Verifiable Publications: Prophetien, pg. 125-127, 1982
Semjase Kontakt Berichte, 2nd ed. Vol. 9, pg. 1753-1754, 1993
Prophetien und Voraussagen, pg. 129-130, 1996
Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 4, pg. 60-61, 2004
Type of Claims: Not 100%
Corroborated Article(s) None

Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 4, pg. 60-61, 2004

Semjase:
165. The severe quake (BMUFOR Note: 1980 Italy Earthquake) around Vesuvius will only be the beginning of a great number of similar disasters in Italy, but it should also be the starting point for further coming eruptions of the volcano, which will create more destruction in the future.
166. The threatening eruptions of the volcano, however, will indicate that another world war comes within easy reach and that its destructive work will begin and be carried out, without it being able to be prevented, if the political and religious unreasonableness of the Earth humans should continue.
167. For two thousand years, the Earth human being was given prophecies about these threats, but he only laughed at them, and all advice that was given was simply spoken into the wind.
168. But he must bear the consequences for more and more of his senselessness.
169. And the events in Italy should be the signs of this coming time, for since ancient times, the most monstrous crimes against Earth humanity were committed by this country, namely through Catholicism, whereby the “Holy See,” in particular, is responsible for this.
170. Already in the beginning time, when the papacy and the Vatican were founded and brought to life in Rome, the most negative place existing in Italy was unconsciously selected for the residence of the Pope, the city of Rome, where the Vatican resided, from which, for almost two thousand years, murder, enslavement, exploitation, deception, and every possible crime spread across the earthly world, and even other worlds in the Universe and in distant, foreign galaxies didn’t remain spared from these vile, murderous, religious, and deadly deeds because innocent extraterrestrial visitors on Earth were confronted with the madness of the religious cult of the Vatican and, therefore, Catholicism, and succumbed to this delusional faith, and after their return to their home worlds, their people living there were also infected by the acquired delusional faith until religious wars broke out, and that is why entire planets and even enormous solar systems have been destroyed.
171. The Earth human being should consider these facts at once and recognize from them how deadly the earthly religious cults truly are.
172. And the earth person should also think about why in ancient times Italy – the most negative place – was ever unconsciously chosen for the creation of the Vatican and why just from there, like many times before, the mark of death is set for the world, when the Vesuvius volcano ejects its lava and thereby spreads great disaster.
173. These are the facts, and it would be worthwhile for the people of the Earth to think about them.
174. Just as before and just as ever, however, there will be know-it-alls and cult-religious believers who will say that the Vesuvius volcano is not in or near Rome but rather is in the vicinity of Naples.
175. These know-it-alls, however, do not know the conditions of the interior of the Earth, much like even the responsible scientists.
176. Thus, they do not know that the main activity of the volcano does not lie directly under it but lies directly and very deeply beneath the city of Rome, so in addition, those areas which will be shaken at the end of November will be caused partly by the magma eruption, water, and gas chambers and be caused partly by tectonic shifts.

Contact Date: Contact Report 214, Tuesday, February 3, 1987, 2:39 PM
Verifiable Publications: Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 5, pg. 250, 2004
Type of Claim: 100%
Corroborated Article(s): November 19, 2001

Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 5, pg. 250, 2004

Billy:
(…) But since we’re already talking about volcanism: How is it, actually, in Italy with Mount Vesuvius? To my knowledge, this is still active, and if it comes to an eruption, it will presumably come to a worse disaster than what was the case on the 24th of August, A.D. 79, when Pompeii was completely destroyed by the enormous eruption of Vesuvius and was buried. The hot, liquid magma under the soil of Vesuvius is hundreds of square kilometers in size and even extends beneath the city of Rome, as I know from you.

Quetzal:
184. That is correct.
185. Under the volcano, at a depth of approximately eight kilometers, there is a huge lake of magma, which has a total area of 523 square kilometers, and from this, several vents flow out of the flanks and out of the crater of the mountain, and occasional masses of magma rise just beneath the crater’s surface.
186. And if it comes to an eruption of Vesuvius, and I mean a really tremendous eruption, there will be a catastrophe of enormous proportions.

Analysis

Note: the article in CR 214 on pg. 250 of PPKB 5 was incorrectly dated as September 11, 1991 instead of November 19, 2001 (also see the online version).

IOI:

  1. Vesuvius eruption and WWIII link
  2. Magma at a depth of 8 kms under Vesuvius has a total area of 523 km2
  3. This magma flow extends beneath the city of Rome

1. Vesuvius eruption and WWIII link

In all earlier publications before PPKB 5, 2004, it was mentioned that the Vesuvius eruption would be the sign that World War III is close and that it would be unavoidable (i.e. a prediction). But in PPKB 5, a new phrase was added with an IF condition thereby turning it into a prophecy that may or may not happen even when Vesuvius erupts.

For example in ‘Prophetien und Voraussagen‘, pg. 129-130, 1996 (for a complete English translation, see Michael Horn’s Newsletter for March 2005):

158. Der Ausbruch des Vulkans selbst aber stellt das Zeichen dessen dar, dass der dritte Weltenbrand, der dritte Weltkrieg in greifbare Nähe gerückt ist und ohne Abwendungsmöglichkeit sein Vernichtungswerk beginnen und durchführen wird.

158. But the eruption of the volcano itself represents a sign that the third world-fire, the Third World War has come into close proximity and without a possibility of being averted, will begin and carry out its work of destruction.

(…)

164. Und der Erdenmensch sollte sich auch Gedanken darüber machen, warum in alter Zeit unbewusst der erdnegativste Ort für die Erstellung des Vatikans ausgewählt wurde, und warum ausgerechnet wiederum von dort, wie schon vielfach vorher, das Zeichen des Todes für die Welt gesetzt wird, wenn der Vulkan Vesuv seine Lava ausspeien wird und damit den dritten Weltkrieg ankündigt.

164. And Man of Earth should also think about, why in times of old, the most negative place on Earth was unconsciously chosen for the establishment of the Vatican, and why especially from there again, as numerous times before, the sign of death is set for the world, when the volcano, Vesuvius, will spew forth its lava, and with it announce the Third World War.

In PPKB 5 the same verses (with different verse numbers) have been changed:

166. The threatening eruptions of the volcano, however, will indicate that another world war comes within easy reach and that its destructive work will begin and be carried out, without it being able to be prevented, if the political and religious unreasonableness of the Earth humans should continue.
(…)
172. And the earth person should also think about why in ancient times Italy – the most negative place – was ever unconsciously chosen for the creation of the Vatican and why just from there, like many times before, the mark of death is set for the world, when the Vesuvius volcano ejects its lava and thereby spreads great disaster.

2. Magma at a depth of 8 kms under Vesuvius has a total area of 523 km– 3. This magma flow extends beneath the city of Rome

In PPKB 4, 2004, a corroboration article from 2001 is included as corroboration of the information given to Meier by the Plejaren ET Quetzal. FIGU Core Group member Hans Georg Lanzendorfer also reported this alleged corroboration in his article ‘Naturkatastrophen (Natural Catastrophes)’, published in FIGU Special Bulletin Nr. 16 in February 2005, citing a similar online German article. Michael Horn too presented this information from CR 136 and CR 214 on the Vesuvius volcano’s size and extent as “prophetically accurate scientific information” on his corroboration of prophecies/predictions page.

Following is an excerpt from the article ‘Study Shows Massive Magma Chamber Lies Beneath Vesuvius‘ published in Scientific American on November 19, 2001 (original paper can be read here):

“The picture that emerged, the researchers report, includes a magma reservoir buried eight kilometers deep in the earth’s crust that is at least 400 square kilometers wide. “This also tells us that there is a huge amount of available magma under Vesuvius (…) It was really unexpected for the reservoir to be that size, so very wide and large.”

This estimation of 400 km2 comes relatively close to the figure of 523 km2 given in CR 214, but did Meier publish this information before scientists discovered it? No, CR 214 (contact date February 3, 1987) was entirely absent in any earlier publications and was only first published in 2004, 3 years after the size and depth of the magma chamber was discovered and reported by scientists. And even though Meier mentioned as early as in 1982 in Prophetien (CR 136) that the magma of Vesuvius extending beneath the city of Rome, the distance from Mount Vesuvius to Rome is around 200 kms and there is still no evidence today showing that these magma channels of the Vesuvius volcano extend beneath the city of Rome.

CR 150 (1981)


Prophecies and Predictions up to March 1983 and a few after

Contact Date: Saturday, October 10, 1981, 3:15 AM
Verifiable Publications: Semjase Kontakt Berichte, 2nd ed. Vol. 11, pg. 2033-2153, 1994
Prophetien und Voraussagen, pg. 161-203, 1996
Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 4, pg. 221-296, 2004
Type of Claims: not 100%
Corroborated Article(s) Miscellaneous – refer to PPKB 4, 2004

Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 4, 2004

Analysis

The prophetic or predictive information from CR 150 is to much to address here in detail, so we have just listed the topics that were discussed. All of this information was only published after the events occurred, for the first time in Semjase Kontakt Berichte, 2nd ed. Vol. 11, 1994 and some new information was added in later publications.

Nations or Regions:

People:

Events:

Saturn has 29 ‘real’ moons

Contact Date: Saturday, October 10, 1981, 3:15 AM
Verifiable Publications: Semjase Kontakt Berichte, 2nd ed. Vol 11, pg. 2067-2073, 1994
Prophetien und Voraussagen, pg. 165-167, 1996
Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 4, pg. 241-244, 2004
Type of Claims: not 100%
Corroborated Article(s) July 1990November 1994

Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 4, pg. 241-244, 2004

Billy:
That is clear to me, but since we are already talking about stars, I still have another question concerning Saturn. As you know, the American space probe, Voyager, travels past Saturn and sends images to Earth. This will give the scientists large eyes once more, as was already the case with Jupiter, because inevitably, they will have to recognize from the recordings, and at other times, that more satellites orbit around this not-matured dwarf sun than what was previously thought. To my knowledge, it has been argued until now that Saturn only has 10 or 12 moons; although, it is true that there are 29, if I omit the Adoniden. Now, it would interest me whether all these moons will be discovered by the picture transmissions of the probes, etc.?

Quetzal:
158. This will be – and still more.
159. As you already noted on your great journey, on the spot, there revolve around Saturn 29 moons that are actually to be regarded as such.
160. These are expected to be discovered in their entire number in about 25 years by probes and by telescopes.
161. But in truth, there aren’t so many that can still be discovered up to this number because since your journey to Saturn, the Earth scientists have still discovered a few more moons, but which apparently escaped you during the last few years.
162. After the discovery of the moons around Jupiter, scientists now reckon that they will also still find some undiscovered satellites around Saturn, but it will still be a surprise for them, nevertheless.

Billy:
Do you think because of the Adoniden, which partially orbit millions of kilometers outside of Saturn?

Quetzal:
163. That is correct.
164. These small planets, known as Adonis, as you correctly say, are so small that they cannot be detected from the Earth, at least not for the time being, for the necessary instruments do not yet exist.
165. A large portion of these small planets will certainly be detected by different probes and earth-orbiting telescopes, which will cause some confusion with the scientists.

Billy:
I can imagine because there is a fairly large number of them that orbit Saturn – besides the few small wanderers, which only pass by this SOL satellite from time to time. But I can well understand that they are not visible from the Earth because on average, they only exhibit a diameter of between roughly 10 to 50 kilometers if I still correctly remember what Ptaah and Semjase explained to me at that time in the year 1975. In addition, there are still some smaller and larger ones that enter in huge distances from Saturn.

Quetzal:
166. That is correct, but you should also know from where these Adoniden arrived at Saturn.

Billy:
Of course. Semjase said at that time that these small satellites, in part, come from larger fragments of the planet Malona, which had its course between Mars and Jupiter, before it was destroyed by an explosion that was unreasonably produced by the local people and was torn into thousands of pieces. While the bulk of the destroyed planet revolves around the Sun as an asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter, some small groups of Adoniden have isolated themselves and have flown off into space by the expansion forces of the planet’s explosion, whereby a larger group of these then arrived into the attractive forces of Saturn, where they have been kept since then as micro-satellites, which also means that these are not actual moons of unfinished solar planets but are just foreign bodies that have immigrated and that are the size of Adonis, so the actual number of Saturn’s moons is only 29.

Quetzal:
167. That is correct, but let’s leave it at that because I still have other things to explain to you.

Analysis

The alleged foreknowledge regarding Saturn and its moons was presented as evidence for the case by FIGU co-founder and Core Group member Guido Moosbrugger in his 1991 book Und sie fliegen doch!, pg. 294-295. The same information was also available in later editions published in 2001 (And yet they fly!, pg. 227-228) , 2004 (And still they fly!, pg. 191-192) and 2012 (Und sie fliegen doch!, pg. 391-392). In SKB 11 (1994) and in PPKB 3 (2004), articles from July 1990 and November 1994 were included as corroborations (see table above) .

IOI:

  1. The actual number of ‘real’ Saturn moons is 29
  2. All the 29 actual moons are expected to be discovered within 25 years

According to Meier/Quetzal, the discovery of a large number of small planets (Saturn moons) would cause some confusion among scientists, but these are not actual moons but be called Adonis (plural: “Adoniden”) which “in part” (“in part” is missing in all publications before PPKB 4, 2004) have come from larger fragments of the alleged planet Malona (a planet that supposedly had its orbit between Mars and Jupiter before it was destroyed by a gigantic explosion caused by the inhabitants and now forms the asteroid belt). Meier also says that on average the size of these Adoniden varies between 10 and 50 kms, some even smaller and larger orbiting at millions of kilometers of distance away from Saturn.

According to earth astronomy there are now 62 known Saturn moons. Starting from Meier’s information this would include at least 33 Adoniden. Since it is not clear how to distinguish between moons and Adoniden, we can neither confirm nor refute Meier’s information on the number of real moons. Nevertheless, this doesn’t seem to stop Michael Horn from promoting this as a “prophetically accurate scientific information.”

Can we say anything on the reliability of Meier’s information? Let’s get into more detail.

In CR 150 published in PPKB 4 and PUV (1996), the number of actual Saturn moons (according to Meier/Quetzal) was given as 29. But in earlier publications – Stimme der Wassermannzeit Nr. 76, pg. 21-22, published in September 1990, and in Und sie fleigen doch! published in 1991– the number of Saturn moons was given as 19. What is even more interesting is what is written in this article in SWZ Nr. 76, titled ‘Eine Aussage Quetzals vom 10. Oktober 1981 bestätigt sich (Quetzal’s prediction from Oct 10, 1981 has been confirmed)‘, after citing the contact verses from CR 150 with the information on the Saturn moons:

“According to an article  in the renowned Swiss newspaper “Tages Anzeiger” of July 26, 1990, the 18th Saturn moon was discovered by American astronomer Mark Showalter, after which only one more moon awaits its discovery by terrestrial scientists. This still imminent discovery of the last Saturn moon will certainly not take a lot of time anymore, whereby another irrefutable proof would be given for the accuracy and truthfullness of Billy’s contacts with extraterrestrial life forms from the Pleiades.”

The news article titled ‘Saturns neuer Mond‘ (Saturn’s new moon) included as corroboration was about the discovery of a new 18th moon of Saturn in July 1990, which later was named Pan. This SWZ article, along with the included news article, was also referred to in Guido’s books published in 19912 as evidence of Meier’s foreknowledge.

For reasons unexplained, the number of the Saturn’s moons was changed from 19 to 29 in the next immediate publication (SKB 11, June 1994) onward. In fact, it seems that SKB 11 was initially printed with ’19’, as page 2067, which contains the first verse mentioning the number of moons, was cut out and replaced with a new version. On page 2073, which contains the second verse mentioning the number of moons, the ‘1’ in ’19’ was visibly corrected to ‘2’. Why? Even though we cannot know the reasons for sure, it is interesting to note that the change occurred precisely after the news about the discovery of seven potential new moons of Saturn was announced in April 1994 or perhaps even earlier, which was also later reported in the New Scientist magazine. This was a few weeks before the publication of SKB 11 was announced in SWZ Nr. 91 in June 1994, maybe it was already printed with the ’19’ figure before the new findings came out?

SKB 11 - pg 2068 - CR 150 - Saturn moons 19-29 page replaced

Old page was cut out so a small stroke was left (red arrows) on which the new page (2067-2068) was glued

SKB 11 - pg 2073 - CR 150 - Saturn moons 19-29 correction

The ‘1’ in ’19’ was covered with correction fluid and replaced by ‘2’

In verse 160 (PPKB 4) Quetzal says that the 29 actual moons of Saturn are “expected to be discovered in their entire number in about 25 years by probes and by telescopes.” However in earlier publications – SKB 11 (1994) and PUV (1996) – the number of years within which the earth scientists would be expected to discover all 29 moons with the help of space probes (telescopes aren’t  mentioned) was given as “about 15 years”. Since contact 150 allegedly took place in 1981 that would mean that by 1996 all 29 moons would be expected to be discovered. In SWZ Nr. 76 (1990), neither ’15 years’ or ’25 years’ was mentioned. The verse just reads:

Diese dürften durch die Sonde in ihrer ganzen Zahl entdeckt werden.
These are expected to be discovered in their entire number.

Why the alterations? It is interesting to note that even though there were many reports on the discovery of potential new moons of Saturn after the 18th moon (Pan) was discovered in 1990, none of them seem to be confirmed. Only in the year 2000, did scientists report on the discovery of 4 new Saturn moons that made the total number of known Saturn moons rise to 22, which is still less than 29. Could this be the reason to alter the value from “about 15 years” to “about 25 years” from the year 1981 (~2006)?

We cannot objectively deduce any motivations or reasons just from these alterations, however the “about 25 years” figure combined with the 29 “real” moons fits better than “about 15 years” combined with 19 moons, because 15 years after 1981 in 1996 only 18 moons were discovered (the 19th moon was only discovered in 2000) and 25 years after 1981 in 2006 already 57 moons were discovered, which could easily contain the 29 “real” moons (the rest of the moons would then belong to the “Adoniden”). The rest of the now 62 known moons with confirmed orbits were discovered later up to 2009.

There are some additional changes and additions in PPKB 4 compared to earlier publications which we will not discuss here because they are rather inconsequential.

Last but not least we will cite what postdoctoral researcher in astronomy Stuart Robbins wrote about Meier’s alleged foreknowledge about the Saturn moons:

CR 150 states in part, from Billy, “more satellites orbit [Saturn] than what was previously assumed.” Given what I just said about Jupiter, and given that CR 150 was written October 10, 1981, one and two years after the three moons from the Voyager program were announced, this was a very, VERY safe bet, especially because moons are stable within a region called a Hill Sphere around a planet, and we had barely begun to tap that region looking for satellites of Saturn from Earth.

Moving on, he states, “To my knowledge, it has been argued until now that Saturn only has its 10 or 12 moons; although, it is true that there are 29, if I omit the Adoniden.” Meier then goes on to ask whether these additional moons will be discovered by terrestrial scientists.

The alien Quetzal replied in part, “there revolve around Saturn 29 moons. … After the discovery of the moons around Jupiter, scientists now reckon that they will also still find some undiscovered satellites around Saturn …” So there, he’s acknowledging effectively what I just said.

But, what’s the number? Prior to 1980, there were 11 known, which just conveniently happens to be between 10 and 12. In 1980, there were an additional 6 discovered, according to Wikipedia, though I think it was 3 in 1980 and 3 in 1981. So already, at least his “to my knowledge” was incorrect because in 1980, a year before this CR, we already had at least 14 known.

Moving on, just as with Jupiter where there are 66 known moons, not 17 plus a bunch of undefined small ones, Saturn now has 61 known moons. One can either say that Meier’s statements are therefore either false or too vague since the term “Adoniden” does not have a specific definition. On the side of them being false, we can do the same exercise of ranking that we did with Jupiter: there are 22 known moons within 2 million km, since he says elsewhere that many more moons are millions (plural) of kms from Saturn3. But 22 is not 29. Or, one could say that there are 17 known moons as of 1981, when this CR was made, but Phoebe was also known and it’s 13 million km from Saturn. Within Phoebe’s orbit, we now know of 26. Still not 29.

Or, looking at diameter, there’s Titan at over 5000 km and the next-largest is Rhea at only 1500. There’s another natural diameter break between Tethys and Enceladus, 1100 km vs 500 km, which is 5 moons Tethys and larger. Another natural break by a factor of 2 between Siarnaq and Pandora, but that’s 13 Pandora and larger. There’s no other good natural break in size nor mass that get you with 29 on one side and the rest on the other.

Nor is there a natural break in discovery year. There were 11 known by 1977. There were another 3 at least discovered in 1980 by terrestrial telescopes which was before Voyager’s encounter with Saturn. Another three from Voyager 2, and then 1 in 1990. Not 29. Then a whole bunch in 2000 that took the number past 29.

So again, either Meier is simply wrong OR this prediction has a built-in “out” and is simply too vague to confirm or refute by not telling you what Adoniden are. And I looked in other CRs and could not find it.

1, 2 The 2001 and 2004 English editions of Und sie fleigen doch!’s also mentions ’19 moons’ instead of 29 and the rest of the text, including the corroboration article (Saturns neuer Mond, SWZ Nr. 76, July 1990) is identical to the 1991 edition. The latest 2012 edition is based on PPKB 4, so it has the ’29 moons’ figure, but the it still refers to the same corroboration article – Saturns neuer Mond – which talks about the discovery of 18th moon, one moon less than what Meier was told by ETs according to earlier publications (19 moons). Guido still used the ’19 moons’ figure in his article – Bekannte und unbekannte Planeten unseres SOL-Systems (Known and Unknown planets on our Solar System) – published in SWZ Nr. 128, pg. 9, September 2003.
3 Meier actually referred to Adoniden and not moons as Stuart Robbins incorrectly assumed – CR 150: “Billy: Do you think because of the Adoniden, which partially orbit millions of kilometers outside of Saturn?”

Kuiper Belt, Oort Cloud and Origin of Comets Halley & Arend-Roland

Contact Date: Saturday, October 10, 1981, 3:15 AM
Verifiable Publications: Semjase Kontakt Berichte, 2nd ed. Vol. 11, pg. 2111-2112, 1994
Prophetien und Voraussagen, pg. 173-175, 1996
Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 4, pg. 261-262, 2004
Type of Claims: 100% & not 100%
Corroborated Article(s) None

Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 4, pg. 261-262, 2004

Billy:
In the coming years and decades, there will again appear frequent passages of comets, including those such as Halley’s Comet, which can practically be observed in the sky in each case even in broad daylight. Now, this is my question: when you took me in 1975 on the great journey, I saw beyond our solar system and planetary system the immense belt of material of frozen acids, rocks, Adoniden, and lifeless planets; some were quite large. Like the asteroid belt beyond the orbit of Mars, this belt also moves around the Sun but very far outside of Pluto’s orbit. At that time, you explained to me that celestial bodies of all kinds pass through this belt, such as Dark Stars and other space bodies, and that every now and then, smaller or larger bodies tear out from this belt and enter into another orbit around the Sun, which can then partly be observed as comets from the Earth and, thus, can be seen. If I remember correctly, you told me at that time that on the one hand, this belt was still widely unknown to the Earth people in its magnitude but that on the other hand, more would soon be discovered, but this apparently hasn’t happened yet because until now, I haven’t seen, heard, or read anything about this. Furthermore, you explained that this material belt consists of the remains of the formation of the solar system and of immigrated materials from space, etc. Now, I wonder how high the percentage of comets is that appears in our solar system and that arises from this material belt beyond Pluto’s orbit.

Quetzal:
239. It has probably escaped your attention, but this belt was in the meantime discovered and actually by a Dutch astronomer named Oort.
240. In accordance with its discovery, the discovered belt is called the Oort Cloud in Earth’s scientific circles, but that’s about it because the connections of this belt to the comets of the SOL system are still, to my knowledge, foreign and unknown to the Earth scientists.
241. But the truth is that about 97% of the SOL system comets originate from this belt, as in this belt, planetary bodies passing by upset the trajectories of the materials through their attractive forces, so then these suddenly scramble, which removes isolated larger and smaller objects, pushing them into new orbits around the solar system, where they then appear as comets, while others fly out far from the Sun into free space in order to disappear somewhere in the vastness of the universe, often referred to as migrant dark planets, which will partly be captured again by major stars as satellites and then orbit them, far away from the new mother stars.
242. But others will rush uncontrollably as dark objects traveling through space.

Billy:
Then only around 3% of all comets in the SOL system come from outside and from somewhere in space.

Quetzal:
243. That is correct.

Billy:
At that time, you also said that the largest part of all meteorites not only whizzes through our system from the asteroid belt, but that by far, the larger part comes from the two belts beyond Pluto. Those space projectiles would then be found in overwhelming numbers, which fell on moons and planets and into the Sun and which will continue to crash down even further in the future, while only a smaller part originates from the asteroid belt.

Quetzal:
244. That is correct, but you were to remain silent about that, particularly with regard to the second belt.

Billy:
I know, but I remember well that you told me that I may speak about this after 1980 because then, the scientists of the Earth would have discovered these facts themselves. This time is over, even if I have heard no such thing about the belts.

Quetzal:
245. That is also correct.
246. The sense of my words was not to criticize you but rather I just wanted to point out that we explained to you at that time that you were not allowed to announce your knowledge before 1980.

Billy:
So I interpreted it as well. But tell me now: Halley’s Comet and the comet Roland, for example, those come as projectiles from deep space, right? In any case, that’s how I understood it at the time.

Quetzal:
247. That is also correct.
248. They belong to the 3% of foreign-system comets.

Billy:
So one could say that 97% of all comets are co-inhabitants of the SOL system?

Quetzal:
249. If you want to state it in such a way, then that is correct, even though we see it differently, and I must explain that these comets stem from other systems in space.

Analysis

As is often the case with other scientific information in the contact reports, here too there are significant differences between earlier publications and the most recent 3rd edition PPKB 4, published in 2004. The parts with differences (see underlined text) relevant to this analysis are cited below.

Semjase Kontakt Berichte, 2nd ed. Vol. 11, 1994 and Prophetien und Voraussagen pg. 173, 1996:

Billy:
(…) Now, this is my question: when you took me in 1975 on the great journey, I saw beyond our solar system and planetary system the immense belt of material of frozen acids, rocks, Adoniden, and lifeless planets; some were quite large. Like the asteroid belt beyond the orbit of Mars, this belt also moves around the Sun but very close to Pluto’s orbit (…) If I remember correctly, you told me at that time that on the one hand, this belt was still unknown to the Earth people but that on the other hand would soon be discovered, but this apparently hasn’t happened yet because until now, I haven’t seen, heard, or read anything about this.

(…)

Billy:
At that time, you also said that the largest part of all meteorites not only whizzes through our system from the asteroid belt, but that the, by far, larger part comes from the belt beyond Pluto.

Quetzal:
244. That is correct, but you were to remain silent about that.

Billy:
I know, but I remember well that you told me that I may speak about this after 1980, because then, the scientists of the Earth would have discovered these facts themselves. This time is over, even if I have heard nothing like that about the belt.

Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 4, 2004:

Billy:
(…) Now, this is my question: when you took me in 1975 on the great journey, I saw beyond our solar system and planetary system the immense belt of material of frozen acids, rocks, Adoniden, and lifeless planets; some were quite large. Like the asteroid belt beyond the orbit of Mars, this belt also moves around the Sun but very far outside of Pluto’s orbit (…) If I remember correctly, you told me at that time that on the one hand, this belt was still widely unknown to the Earth people in its magnitude but that on the other hand, more would soon be discovered, but this apparently hasn’t happened yet because until now, I haven’t seen, heard, or read anything about this.

(…)

Billy:
At that time, you also said that the largest part of all meteorites not only whizzes through our system from the asteroid belt, but that the, by far, larger part comes from the two belts beyond Pluto.

Quetzal:
244. That is correct, but you were to remain silent about that, particularly with regard to the second belt.

Billy:
I know, but I remember well that you told me that I may speak about this after 1980, because then, the scientists of the Earth would have discovered these facts themselves. This time is over, even if I have heard nothing like that about the belts.

In the earlier publications SKB 11 (1994) and PUV (1996), there was only mention of one belt (the Oort cloud) which was “very close to Pluto’s orbit”. This would be incorrect since the Oort cloud occupies a vast space from somewhere between 2,000-5,000 AU to as far as 50,000-200,000 AU from the Sun, far beyond the orbit of Pluto at a distance between 29 and 49 AU from the Sun. There is also a belt close to and beyond Pluto’s orbit, but this belt is known as the Kuiper belt. In the latest in the latest edition (PPKB 4, 2004), “very close to Pluto’s orbit” was changed into “very far outside of Pluto’s orbit”. Furthermore PPKB 4 mentions 2 belts instead of one, which would be the Oort cloud and the Kuiper belt, and Quetzal tells Meier that he should remain silent about the 2nd belt (which would be the Kuiper belt), although the contact took place in 1981.

In the earlier publications Meier suggested that the Oort cloud is “still unknown to the Earth people but that on the other hand would soon be discovered”, in other words the Oort cloud is completely unknown but will soon be discovered, but in PPKB 4 he suggests the Oort cloud is “still widely unknown to the Earth people in its magnitude but that on the other hand, more would soon be discovered”, in other words the Oort cloud is known, but not much is known yet about it’s magnitude but more will be discovered soon. In both versions Quetzal answers that in the mean time the Oort cloud has been discovered by a Dutch astronomer called Oort, but the “connections of this belt to the comets of the SOL system are still foreign and unknown to the Earth scientists”. This answer fits more to what Meier says in the earlier editions then in PPKB 4.

For the sake of argument, let’s consider and analyze the information from the PPKB 4 edition from 2004, assuming this is the most accurate version.

IOI:

  1. A cometary belt far outside Pluto’s orbit was discovered between 1975 and 1981 by a Dutch astronomer called Oort
  2. According to Quetzal the connections of this belt to the comets of the SOL system are still foreign and unknown to the Earth scientists
  3. 97% of the SOL system comets come from the Oort cloud and 3% come from outside the SOL system; Halley’s Comet and the comet Roland belong to this 3%
  4. The largest part of the meteorites comes from 2 belts beyond Pluto rather than the asteroid belt
  5. Meier should keep the existence of the 2nd belt (Kuiper belt) a secret until 1980 because scientists would discover it themselves

1. A cometary belt far outside Pluto’s orbit was discovered between 1975 and 1981 by a Dutch astronomer called Oort

In CR 150 from October 10, 1981 Meier refers to his great space journey in 1975 during which he saw a cometary belt far beyond Pluto’s orbit. Further he says he hasn’t yet read found any reports of the belt in the media, to which Quetzal responds that this belt was discovered in the meantime and was named ‘Oort cloud’. This would suggest the Oort Cloud was discovered between 1975 and 1981.

Was this really the case? Wikipedia reads:

“The Oort cloud (/ˈɔrt/ or /ˈʊərt/[1]) or Öpik–Oort cloud,[2] named after Dutch astronomer Jan Oort and Estonian astronomer Ernst Öpik, is a spherical cloud of predominantly icy planetesimals believed to surround the Sun at a distance of up to around 100,000 AU (2 ly).[3]

(…)

In 1932, the Estonian astronomer Ernst Öpik postulated that long-period comets originated in an orbiting cloud at the outermost edge of the Solar System.[6] The idea was independently revived by Oort as a means to resolve a paradox.[7] Over the course of the Solar System’s existence the orbits of comets are unstable and eventually dynamics dictate that a comet must either collide with the Sun or a planet or else be ejected from the Solar System by planetary perturbations. Moreover, their volatile composition means that as they repeatedly approach the Sun, radiation gradually boils the volatiles off until the comet splits or develops an insulating crust that prevents further outgassing. Thus, Oort reasoned, a comet could not have formed while in its current orbit and must have been held in an outer reservoir for almost all of its existence.[7][8][9]

One cannot really speak of a moment of discovery of the Oort cloud. Like what happens often in science, the ‘discovery’ was more a gradual process, at the beginning of which a hypothesis was postulated to explain certain observations and over time more hypotheses were postulated, theories and models were developed and more observations were made. As Wikipedia suggests, the concept of a cloud of comets was first proposed in 1932 and again in 1950, decades before Meier discussed it in CR 150. Yet, the Oort cloud is still considered to be a hypothetical spherical cloud of icy bodies that has yet to be directly observed, although a lot of indirect evidence points to its existence.

When was it called ‘Oort Cloud’ for the first time? When Dutch astronomer Jan Oort proposed this cometary cloud in his 1950 paper, he just referred to it as a ‘cloud of comets. In other scientific papers we found, published by others after 1950, it was referred to as ‘Oort’s cloud of comets‘. The earliest paper we could find in which it is referred to as ‘Oort Cloud’ is from 1962 (pg. 162):

“Comets with (…) not included in Fig. 5, are members of the Oort cloud.

It is possible that there are papers referring to it as ‘Oort cloud‘ even before that in the 1950s. Again this is decades before what Quetzal suggested.

2. According to Quetzal the connections of this belt to the comets of the SOL system are still foreign and unknown to the Earth scientists

Assuming this is really what Quetzal meant, it is rather absurd because the very existence of comets, specifically long-period comets, was the reason to suspect the existence of a cloud of comets far beyond the Pluto orbit. In other words: the concept of the Oort cloud was a hypothesis to explain the existence of long-period comets! It wasn’t first observed and then later scientists found out, or still have to find out, the connection between comets and the Oort cloud. In fact, as already said before, the Oort cloud has never been directly observed yet! The Oort cloud objects (OCOs) are relatively small and very far away from the sun, so there is very little sunlight reflection. They are simply to faint and to small to be observed by telescopes. So even today the existence of the Oort cloud is technically still just a hypothesis to explain the existence of the long-period comets that approach the sun so they are close enough for us to observe them.

3. 97% of the SOL system comets come from the Oort cloud and 3% come from outside the SOL system; Halley’s Comet and the comet Roland belong to this 3%

In 1989, 5 years before the first publication of CR 150 in Semjase Kontakt Berichte, 2nd ed. Vol. 11, 1994, it was proposed that Halley’s Comet may have may have originated somewhere beyond the solar system. For the first time the chemical composition of a comet was examined by spectral analysis. It was discovered that the ratio between carbon 12 and carbon 13 in Halley’s Comet differs from all other solar system objects examined, including terrestrial and lunar rocks, meteorites and the atmosphere of large planets. This suggests the comet originated beyond the solar system, although an alternative explanation was also discussed in the article.

Further studies in the 1990s by the authors of the 1989 paper added more evidence. Later in 2010, a study based on computer simulations suggested that comets like Halley, Hale-Bopp and McNaught may have been born in orbit around other stars. One of the scientists from the 2010 article, Hal Levison, stated the following based on his research:

“If we assume that the Sun’s observed proto-planetary disk can be used to estimate the indigenous population of the Oort cloud, we can conclude that more than 90 percent of the observed Oort cloud comets have an extra-solar origin.”

This 2010 article is cited by Michael Horn as corroboration of Meier’s “prophetically accurate scientific information”. However this article talks about the possible extra-solar origin of 90% of the comets in the Oort cloud. Quetzal was talking about the origin of the comets that appeared in the inner solar system, 97% of which would have their origin in the Oort cloud, and 3% from outside the SOL-system. These are two different things, so apart from the preliminary nature of this study, this article cannot be regarded as corroboration of Quetzal’s statement.

Regarding the comet Roland, we couldn’t find any article citing it as a possible extra-solar object.

4. The largest part of the meteorites comes from 2 belts beyond Pluto rather than the asteroid belt

Regarding the origin of meteorites (pieces of space debris that have withstand atmospheric entry and impacted on Earth’s surface) Meier says the following (to Quetzal):

“At that time, you also said that the largest part of all meteorites not only whizzes through our system from the asteroid belt, but that the, by far, larger part comes from the two belts beyond Pluto. Those space projectiles are then also in overwhelming numbers, which fell on moons and planets and into the Sun and which would still continue to crash down even further on, while only a smaller part originates from the asteroid belt.”

So Meier was told that a great part of the meteorites do not originate from the asteroid belt but from the Kuiper belt and Oort cloud. This would be Meteorites that originate from comets which in turn originate from the two outer belts, these meteorites are called ‘cometary meterorites’. The following excerpts regarding cometery meteorites are from papers from 1998 and 2008:

Are There Cometary Meteorites?, 1998:

“Comets have been often considered as potential sources of meteorites, but there are no meteorites currently believed to have come from comets. Recent developments, including the identification of comet-asteroid transition objects, new information on the collisional history of Jupiter-Family comets, and on the composition of cometary solids, provide new insights into the topic of cometary meteorites. We have revisited this question and conclude that comets do indeed yield meteorites, which have either not been found or recognized.”

Meteorites from the Outer Solar System?, 2008:

“All meteorites for which a precise orbit has been calculated originate from the asteroid belt. There is at present a large consensus that asteroids are the source of all meteorites present in museum collections (~30,000), except for a few tens of lunar or martian meteorites. It is still possible, however, that a minor fraction of meteorites originate from the outer solar system, i.e., from Jupiter-family comets (JFCs), long-period comets (LPCs), Halley-type comets (HTCs), or Kuiper belt objects (KBOs).”

This suggests that either Meier’s information is incorrect or what Meier had been told has not yet been discovered, which according to our current scientific knowledge seems to be unlikely.

5. Meier should keep the existence of the 2nd belt (Kuiper belt) a secret until 1980 because scientists would discover it themselves

Other then with the Oort cloud, there have been direct observations of the Kuiper belt, for the first time in in 1992, but like with the Oort cloud, one cannot really speak of a moment of discovery of the Kuiper belt. Again, there was a gradual process that started with a hypothesis to explains certain observations which over time transformed in scientific theory/fact. Obviously, the idea of the Kuiper belt is strongly connected to the idea of the Oort cloud, both are hypotheses/theories to explain the existence of comets, so both ideas were developed more or less parallel to each other. The idea for what eventually became known as the Kuiper belt was first proposed as far as back in the year 1930, and since then several hypotheses have been put forward. The first direct observation was a confirmation of an already existing hypothesis, rather than a discovery of something completely new and unexpected.

Clearly Meier wasn’t the first one to mention this second belt, let alone publish about it. Even long before Meier’s great journey (July 17-22, 1975) this second belt was already proposed and several scientific papers had been published on it. So it’s rather incomprehensible that Quetzal would want Meier to keep the existence of the second belt a secret until 1980. But even then we would expect the  information on the second belt to be published in SKB 11, 1994 and PuV, 1996, yet, the version of the contact report which mentions the second belt was only published in 2004 in PPKB 4. Why? Could this all be explained by writing errors?

Close approach of asteroid 2003 QQ47 to Earth in 2014

Contact Date: Contact Report 150, Saturday, October 10, 1981, 3:15 AM
Verifiable Publications: Semjase Kontakt Berichte, 2nd ed. Vol. 11, pg. 2140, 1994
Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 4, pg. 284-286, 2004
Type of Claims: 100%
Corroborated Article(s) September 3, 2003

Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 4, pg. 284-286, 2004

Years B.C. Orbital period (years) Special event
10943.5 489
10454.5 662
10219 – Deluge A large asteroid crashes in the Indian Ocean, causing a deluge.
9792.5 575.5 Destroyer rips 7 large asteroids from the Asteroid Belt casting them into various dangerous orbits and which, in coming times, will endanger the earth. One of them probably in (the year) 2014.
9545 – Deluge The seven large asteroids from the Asteroid Belt reach earth’s orbit and crash into the world oceans: one in the North Sea, one in the Indian Ocean, one in the Chinese Sea, one in the sea off the southeast coast of Australia, one in the Atlantic and one in the Pacific, producing a huge deluge on a worldwide scale. The last one continues on its orbit.

 

Contact Date: Contact Report 230, Wednesday, October 11, 1989, 4:01AM
Verifiable Publications: Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 6, pg. 47-48 & 116-117, 2005
Type of Claims: 100%
Corroborated Article(s) September 3, 2003September 4, 2003

Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 6, pg. 47-48 & 116-117, 2005

Billy:
(…) Ok – while we are at the subject of space: we already talked about comets, meteors and asteroids. Also during the 223rd contact on May 1 last year we spoke about it, whereby you explained that our astronomers would discover many of those space wanderers in the future. In addition you explained that one wanderer asteroid you call Soran, which is larger than 1000 meters and orbits around the sun, will come very close to Earth in 2014. Can you tell me whether this object already was discovered or not, and how close it will come to Earth, and when?

Quetzal:
424. The asteroid has not yet been discovered by astronomers, but our future projections indicate a discovery will take place in the fall of 2003.
425. An approach to Earth by the asteroid will happen in March 2014 at a little less than 50,000 kilometers, if everything proceeds the way it seems it will at this time.

Billy:
Devilishly close.

Quetzal:
426. That is of correctness.

(…)

Billy:
(…)
We have spoken together some time ago and also discussed, if I’m not mistaken, that in 2003 or something an asteroid which is dangerous for the Earth will come dangerously close to the Earth in 2014. When will be the exact date of discovery? I also remember that you once said that also in the year 2028 an asteroid will approach the Earth?

Quetzal:
794. That is of correctness.
795. We already discussed that.
796. The asteroid, which is to be expected in 2028, will pass by the Earth relatively close, so the planet will not be hit, if nothing unexpected happens.
797. Regarding the object that is to be expected in 2014, the following can be said:
798. It concerns the large wanderer asteroid, which we call Soran.
799. It will be discovered on August 24, 2003.
800. It is indeed a dangerous object that can really cause huge disaster, might it occur that by still unpredictable circumstances it deviates only a small fraction from its orbit, which would normally pass very close to the Earth.
801. Even in ancient times the path of the object came dangerously close to the Earth, whereby on several occasions both the planet as well as the Earth’s moon were hit by small asteroid fragments, that were towed along with the wanderer asteroid.

Analysis

In CR 150 (October 10, 1981) Meier was given a timeline regarding a wandering planet referred to as the ‘Destroyer’ (known by us as the Great Comet of 1680) which listed its orbital period and effects on Earth and other objects in the Solar system. In this timeline, it was mentioned that in 9792.5 B.C., the Destroyer ripped 7 large asteroids from the Asteroid belt, 6 of which crashed into the Earth’s ocean in 9,545 B.C. while the 7th would endanger the Earth in 2014.

This information is a bit too general to point to any specific asteroid. Other than that a ‘large’ asteroid will probably endanger the Earth in 2014, no specific information was given about its mass, size, orbit, date of discovery etc. Large is a pretty relative term, what is the cut-off size for calling an asteroid as ‘large’? Every year hundreds so called Near Earth Asteroids (NEAs) are discovered. Between 1995 and the time of writing this text (February 19, 2015) a total of 12,160 were discovered of which 866 are ~1 km or larger in size. So even if we assume ‘large’ means a size of 1 km or more, also many of such NEAs are discovered every year. This trend is also similar to the discovery of asteroids documented between 1978-1986. With regard to the ‘probable endangerment’ of Earth by this asteroid, which is also difficult to define, each year there are also many close approaches of asteroids to Earth (check NASA’s database here).

In CR 230 (October 11, 1989), Meier recites a conversation from May 1, 1988 (unofficial conversation, not documented in CR 223 from that date), in which he was given information about the size (larger than 1,000 meters) and time of closest approach to Earth of an asteroid the Plejaren call Soran and asks for more information. Quetzal tells him the future date of discovery by Earth’s astronomers (August 24, 2003) and that it will pass Earth at a little less than 50,000 kilometers in March 2014, if nothing changes.

How do we know the asteroids mentioned in CR 150 and the one in mentioned in CR 230 are the same? Just from the information in both CRs, no link can be clearly established.

On October 7, 2011 Michael Horn forwarded and email to Mahesh Karumudi (BMUFOR team) that was sent to him by FIGU Core Group member and SSSC director Christian Frehner (CF). This mail from Frehner was a response to Mahesh’s (online name: Mahigitam) query on the original publication dates of the 1st edition German contact notes, the 5,300 year old Ice man information in Stimme der Wassermanszeit and the Toutatis information in the book ‘Existentes Lebens Im Universum‘ (Existing life in the Universe). Towards the end of his email, Frehner wrote the following:

“Perhaps Mahigitam keeps an eye on March 2014 when the Wander asteroid Soran will fly by the Earth (hopefully not hitting it) at a distance of about 50,000 kilometres.”

In June 2014, in response to a request to Meier to provide details of any prophecy or prediction that was verifiably published before the events occurred on the FIGU forum, Meier said the following, which implies there are indeed prophecies and predictions that were published before the events occurred:

“There is no use and no need to repeat details of prophecies or predictions over and over again.”

Christian Frehner added the following to Meier’s response, stating that Quetzal’s prediction on the asteroid Soran has recently come true.

“Btw: On the 14th of March another prediction by Quetzal has been fulfilled when a dangerous asteroid whooshed past Earth.”

Frehner didn’t mention the source of this prediction, but when we contacted him later, he confirmed on July 9, 2014 that the source we suggested (7th remaining asteroid, CR 150, 1981) was indeed correct.

Furthermore, in the 3rd edition contact reports, Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakt Berichte, news articles from September 3 and September 4, 2003, both referring to the same asteroid, were included in CR 150 (PPKB 4, pg. 286. 2004) and CR 230 (PPKB 6, pg. 117, 2005) as corroborations of Meier’s foreknowledge about this asteroid. This also clearly implies both CRs speak of the same asteroid.

The asteroid this prediction apparently referred to is 2003 QQ47, which indeed was discovered on August 24, 2003 and it is estimated at about 1.2 kms, which would qualify as ‘large’. At some point, a few days after its discovery, the chance of this asteroid impacting with Earth on March 21, 2014 was estimated at 1:250,000, which is relatively high. But within a few more days, when the orbit was determined more accurately, this chance diminished to practically zero.

This information on the size, date of discovery, and date of closests approach date matches very well with the information that was given to Meier in CR 230. If Meier really published this before the discovery of 2003 QQ47 it would be strong evidence of Meier’s foreknowledge. But as it turns out, he didn’t. CR 230 is completely absent in any earlier publications and was only first published in PPKB 6, 2006, 3 years after the discovery of 2003 QQ47 and other details like its size and date and distance of closest approach were widely reported in the media.

There is another issue. In CR 230 Quetzal mentions that the distance of closest approach will be “a little less than 50,000 kilometers, if everything proceeds the way it seems it will at this time.” However on March 26, 2014 (21 March turned out to be incorrect) 2003 QQ47 safely passed Earth at a distance of about 19,190,000 km (0.128 AU), which is nearly 380 times farther away from Earth as Quetzal mentioned.

Orbital path of 2003 QQ47

Interestingly, the ‘little less than 50,000 kms’ figure was reported (also see the corroborated PPKB news article from September 3) in the media, shortly after 2003 QQ47 was discovered, but soon afterwards this was corrected to about 19 million kms. The estimated chance of impact changed from the initially reported value of 1 in 250,000 (August 30, 2003), to 1 in 1.75 million (August 31, 2003), to 1 in 909,000 (early Tuesday, September 2, 2003) and eventually to zero (late Tuesday, September 2, 2003). Also the closest-approach date was corrected from March 21 to March 26, 2014.

It’s very normal that in the few days after an asteroid is first discovered, its orbit is known only very approximately, and the range of possible positions in future years is wide. Occasionally, the range of a newly discovered asteroid encompasses Earth, which then often gets a lot of media attention, but as the object continues to be tracked, the range of possibilities shrinks quickly and usually the possibility of an impact on Earth is ruled out. Also the distance of closest approach will be determined more accurately after a longer time of tracking the asteroid.

If Quetzal indeed told Meier details and predictions about 2003 QQ47 in 1989 (CR 230), this would have been based on the far more advanced science of the Plejaren. Presumably it would have been no problem for them at all to very accurately determine the orbit of this asteroid and predict the distance of closest approach to Earth in 2003. However, not only did the alleged estimation of the distance of closest approach of the Plejaren from 1989 or earlier exactly matched a very preliminary estimation of Earth’s astronomers published in the media (what are the odds?), this estimation also turned out to be completely wrong, as 2003 QQ47 passed Earth at more than 19 million kms.

But there are even more suspicious matters: in Semjase Kontakt Berichte, 2nd ed. Vol. 11, 1994,in which CR was published first, there is no mention at all of an asteroid that would probably endanger the Earth in 2014. Following is the text from SKB 11 (1994):

German:

9792,5 v. Chr. – 575,5 Umlaufzeit Jahre
spezielles Ereignis: Zerstörer reisst 7 Gross-Asteroiden aus dem Asteroidengürtel, die eine gefährliche Bahn einschlagen und in kommender Zeit die Erde gefährden werden.

9545 v. Chr. – Sintflut
spezielles Ereignis: Die 7 Gross-Asteroiden aus dem Asteroidengürtel erreichen die Erdbahn und stürzen in die Weltmeere; einer in die Nordsee, einer in den indischen Ozean, einer in das Chinesische Meer, einer ins Meer vor der Südostküste Australiens, einer in den Atlantik und zwei in den Pazifik, wobei eine Gross-Sintflut weltweiter Form entsteht. Der letzte läuft weiter auf seiner Bahn.

English:

9792.5 B.C. – 575.5 Orbital period years
Special Event: Destroyer rips 7 large asteroids from the asteroid belt, which embark on a dangerous path and will endanger the Earth in the coming times.

9545 B.C. – Deluge
Special Event: The seven large asteroids from the Asteroid Belt reach earth’s orbit and crash into the world oceans: one in the North Sea, one in the Indian Ocean, one in the Chinese Sea, one in the sea off the southeast coast of Australia, one in the Atlantic and two in the Pacific, producing a huge deluge on a worldwide scale.

Compare this with the corresponding information in PPKB 6 (differences are underlined):

9792.5 B.C. – 575.5 Orbital period years
Special Event: Destroyer rips 7 large asteroids from the Asteroid Belt casting them into various dangerous orbits and which, in coming times, will endanger the earth. One of them probably in (the year) 2014.

9545 B.C. – Deluge
Special Event: The seven large asteroids from the Asteroid Belt reach earth’s orbit and crash into the world oceans: one in the North Sea, one in the Indian Ocean, one in the Chinese Sea, one in the sea off the southeast coast of Australia, one in the Atlantic and one in the Pacific, producing a huge deluge on a worldwide scale. The last one continues on its orbit.

According to SKB 11 all 7 asteroids that were allegedly ripped out of the asteroid belt by the Destroyer crashed into the Earth’s oceans, but according to PPKB 4 only 6 crashed and the one remaining asteroid (2003 QQ47) continued in an orbit that would endanger Earth, probably in the year 2014. Even before the publication of SKB 11 (1994), the Destroyer timeline was published in Stimme der Wassermannzeit Nr. 49, Jahrgang 9, December 1983 on pages 17-24 in the article ‘Das Universum‘. But as already discussed under Shoemaker-Levy 9, this timeline is significantly different from the timeline in SKB 11 and PPKB 4 and it may not come as a surprise that the years 9792.5 and 9545 B.C. and the information on the 7 asteroids are completely absent in the timeline in SWZ 49.

One could ask why this information was absent from the timeline in CR 150 in SWZ Nr. 49, 1983 and in SKB 11, 1994 and only added in PPKB 4, 2004, 1 year after 2003 QQ47 was discovered…

To summarize this analysis: in FIGU publications prior to the discovery of 2003 QQ47, there was absolutely no reference to this asteroid at all. All information published by FIGU after the discovery, especially the distance of closest approach, seems to be based on preliminary information published in the media shortly after the discovery of 2003 QQ47.

As a side note, the late James Deardorff made the following remark on the Destroyer comet ripping 7 asteroids from the Asteroid belt in 9,792 B.C. which 247.5 years later (9,545 B.C.) all crashed into Earth’s oceans, apart from one:

“(…) the most horrendously improbable aspect of it — that after 200+ years of wandering on their own diverted erratic orbits at least 6 of the 7 asteroids all returned to the same place on the same day.”

Health Dangers of Space Travel

Contact Date: Contact Report 150, Saturday, October 10, 1981, 3:15 AM
Verifiable Publications: Semjase Kontakt Berichte, 2nd ed. Vol. 11, pg. 2114-2116, 1994
Prophetien und Voraussagen, pg. 178-181, 1996
Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 4, pg. 264-266, 2004
Type of Claims: 100%
Corroborated Article(s) None

Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 4, pg. 264-266, 2004

Billy:
(…) But say again, you told me at that time, during my great journey, about a serious illness that should be revealed in connection with space flight. You then said something about the fact that the people of the Earth would, very soon through their space flight experiments, find out that they could not pursue this primitive kind of space flight that is pursued by them without taking severe damage. If I remember correctly, you then told me that through this primitive earthly kind of space flight, the danger of an incurable illness exists for the would-be astronauts and that all those who had flown in space capsules over the Earth’s ozone layer were already infected. You then explained that something will happen with the brains of these people.

Quetzal:
274. That is correct because at that time, we explained to you the dangers of space flight because the conquering of interstellar space isn’t so simple, like the Earth people imagine.
275. Free space poses many dangers, which the Earth person is still in no way aware of.
276. In particular, the very dangerous kind of space-conquering, as is pursued by the Earth people, releases health damages in the person.
277. First and foremost, the Earth people have no knowledge in terms of the risk of body-damaging, as well as organ-damaging radiations, which prevail in all of space and pass through this.
278. On the other hand, the realization also escapes them that the human body cannot cope with weightlessness on a permanent basis, which is why after seventy hours of a weightless state, physical and organic damage already begins.
279. If the Earth person, as well as any other race to be classified as all-space controlling, wants to pursue space flight, then the spacecraft equipment must be adapted to the given conditions in all respects, as well as the space suits for the life forms themselves.
280. Space flight equipment and space suits must be supported by a special insulation shielding layer with regard to the various body-damaging and organ-damaging space radiations and space vibrations and be made resistant.
281. This is the most important factor for the preservation of life for the people in space, but it is also the most important factor for the conservation of organic and physical health of the people who travel through space with space-competent missiles or in protection suits.
282. The second and equally important factor in this regard is based on gravity and is to be observed with equally great importance as the shielding against the space radiations and space vibrations.
283. If these factors are not taken into account, and thus, the spacecraft and protective suits of the people are not prepared accordingly so that by special insulation shields, the missiles and protective suits are made resistant against the outside influences of the radiations and vibrations and that the spacecraft and protective suits are equipped with their own gravitational fields, then the body and all organs and bones of the space traveling people will take health damage.
284. Radiations, vibrations, and the like, unprotected missiles and similar protective suits, as well as the weightlessness of interstellar space lead to health damages in the brain and in the bones of humans and many other life forms.
285. These, together with many other forms of injury to health, spread to the whole body and to all organs.
286. Thus, if the human life form is not protected in space by special shields and by artificial gravitational fields against the space radiations and space vibrations and against the weightlessness, then he will suffer health damage, which in a stark case, usually leads to death.
287. The first reaction of severe brain injury that I mentioned, for example, leads to barely detectable brain swelling in very slight cases, which will, after some time, lead to thought and action uncertainty and then inevitably result in reaction loss, such as, for example, the sudden loss of control of a vehicle or aircraft or the appearance of total errors against all reason.
288. These kinds of mild cases already occur with those people who linger on the Earth in containers where weightlessness is produced, but on the other hand, they also appear in all those Earth people who leave the Earth for only a very short duration and arrive over the earthly ozone layer.
289. All of that can only truly be done if the necessary precautions are sufficient enough; otherwise, the health damages are inevitable.
290. However, if a human or any other life form lingers for a very long time, such as many months or years, unprotected in weightlessness in space, then the initially developing brain swelling of an inflamed form will suddenly develop in reverse sequence, by which brain atrophy then develops, as with weak-thinking and elderly people.
291. Even the brain substance itself suffers a loss; thus, the entire brain mass passes through this phenomenon of a pathological nature.
292. This symptom, and such an act is proven, is caused on the one hand by the unbridled influence of space vibrations and space radiations of various kinds, as well as by weightlessness.
293. The illness originating from these factors ignites the brain substances and the brain organs themselves, after which a new, short-termed illness factor arises, which expresses itself as a decrease of brain activity, through a kind of cerebral palsy substance, which then leads to the general shrinkage of total brain mass, which can no longer be stopped by human and medical and other similar means.
294. If the person lingers long enough unprotected and weightlessly in space, then the brain contraction ultimately leads to the point where the person loses absolute control over himself, his thinking, and actions and life.
295. The ultimate end, then, is insanity and death.

Billy:
That is exactly what you explained to me at that time, but how long will it still take before the people of the Earth recognize the first of these facts?

Quetzal:
296. It will be the time around the middle of 1982.
297. But in truth, only a few facts will be recognized initially, while the final or, at least, the further scope of the effective space threats will be detected only much later, after the initial space flights have already claimed the lives of Earth people.

Analysis

In general Quetzal said that terrestrial science would would start discovering the negative effects of space travel on health and especially on the functioning of brain, starting from the middle of the year 1982. However the dangers of space travel in general and also on the brain had already been identified decades before CR 150 allegedly took place. Furthermore this information was only published for the first time in Semjase Kontakt Berichte, 2nd ed. Vol. 11, 1994. By that time, many papers and articles had been published on the impact of space travel on the human body and the especially the brain. Below are just some of those articles:

“Space travel may be as dangerous as cigarette smoking from this (cancer) point of view.” – The Windsor Star – May 8, 1961

“Hallucinations, impaired judgment and permanent brain and bone damage are possible hazards of prolonged space flight scientists say.” – Lawrence Journal-World – June 8, 1963

“One of these effects is the destruction of antibodies, leaving the victim a ready prey to all types of infection. Keeping the body supplied with fluids is another problem…Furthermore there is some evidence that some body functions that we think of as automatic are controlled by gravity. These include emptying the urinary bladder, the gall baldder, the stomach and other organs…In the absence of gravity there is also the danger that free-floating fluids will be inhaled into the lungs..” – Sarasota Journal – December 24, 1964

“Astronauts who journey to Mars and back may return with less brain power than when they left. A scientist who experimented with rats says that outer space radiation accelerates aging of the mind.” Herald-Journal – December 27, 1992

Yet this information is promoted by Michael Horn as “prophetically accurate scientific information.”, corroborated by an article from as late as December 2012.

Red Meteor or Asteroid Apophis

Contact Date: Contact Report 150, Saturday, October 10, 1981, 3:15 AM
Verifiable Publications: Und sie fliegen doch!, pg. 392-394, 1991
Semjase Kontakt Berichte, 2nd ed. Vol. 11, pg. 2144-2145, 1994
Prophetien und Voraussagen, pg. 200-202, 1996
And yet they fly!, pg. 316-317, 2001
And still they fly!, pg. 265-266, 2004
Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 4, pg. 289-290, 2004
Type of Claims: not 100%
Corroborated Article(s) None

Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 4, pg. 289-290, 2004

Billy:
(…) But say once, since we’re already talking about this Destroyer: according to the prophecies transmitted to me, still different comets and also meteors of enormous size wander around like ghosts, which will be influencing the Earth and the life of this world. I am particularly interested in the “red meteor.” Now, is this the Destroyer, or is this another comet that passes again and again through our solar system?

Quetzal:
492. Neither, my friend.
493. The meteor mentioned in the prophecies, which proves to be of enormous size and will cause most severe destructions on the Earth, and which threatens to bring, aside from climatic and tectonic changes, also additional changes, will threaten to split the crust of the Earth from the present-day North Sea down to the Black Sea which, however, does not have to occur with certainty, because certain factors speak against this.
494. It approaches from the depths of outer space towards the SOL-system and is a so-called stranger.

Billy:
You mean, that this does not refer to a known comet, which again and again passes our system on its path?

Quetzal:
495. That is correct, because the meteor travels on a path, which leads it to the SOL-system for the first time.
496. At earlier times, it was never in this area of space.

Billy:
And its path shall end on the Earth? Could you not do anything about this?

Quetzal:
497. You know very well, that this will be the case and that we are not allowed to halt this event.
498. The cosmic powers have pre-programmed this event, which could only be stopped or prevented by Earth humanity themselves.
499. In their materialistic and misled disunity and in their megalomania, however, they disregard all warnings and prophecies, so that what is going to happen is probably inevitable, as an admonition and punishment, if you want to see it that way.
500. And as this warning and vengeance must occur, we are not allowed to take any steps in order to prevent the occurrence.
501. Earth humanity should listen to your words and warnings, but that especially they do not do.
502. You stand in a lost position, like one calling in the wilderness, and only few are and will be willing to listen to your words, to grasp their meaning, to reflect about them and to learn how to act correctly.
503. Those who will not listen will find death in exchange, when the meteor begins its work of death and creates a new continent, due to an enormous crack of the Earth, from the North Sea to the Black Sea, from which will spew forth red hot lava, if the prophecy should be fulfilled in its entire proportions which, however, has not been determined in its final consequence.

Billy:
You say that so dramatically and unscientifically.

Quetzal:
504. It is our nature to remain human, including in scientific explanations without scientific language.
505. Scientific language prevails primarily only with the Earth people, who believe that they need to excel by using this language.
506. It is a degeneration of brazen megalomania, which leads, besides, to the playing down of all dangers.
507. That is one reason why we and also every other intelligent and honest-minded life form never get involved in scientific language, but only speak in a human linguistic manner, which must sound somewhat dramatic because the fact of the existing drama of the extraordinary is given.
508. A purely scientific manner of expression is always wrong, due to the playing down and minimizing and disregard of the dangers.

Billy: In all other respects, I would be interested to know where this Earth tear arises.

Quetzal:
509. In reference to the event to be expected, and already told you, that this one will part the land portion between the North Sea and the Black Sea.
510. Red hot lava masses and natural gas etc. will, in addition, create from it a deadly sulphurous wall which, drifting westward, will cover the land and with that creates an additional death-zone, if the prophecy should actually be fulfilled in its entirely, and if Earth humanity does not undertake something in unison to stop it.

Billy:
Aha, that was also stated in one of the prophecies. But is there not the slightest possibility, that you could yet prevent something?

Quetzal:
511. Your question is rather illogical, my friend, on the other hand, we try very well to be helpful to Earth Man, in that we make these approaching horrors and events visible to many sensitives by visions, and also include you in these visions.
512. Unfortunately, however, all these sensitive ones, Earth humans, who are receiving corresponding vision-impulses from us, are always involved in some type of error religion, so they are not able to recognize us, and they attribute the visions they receive from us to some godhoods or cosmic world directors etc., although such figures and powers in truth only exist in the religiously misled minds of Earth humanity.

Contact Date: Contact Report 471, Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 2.16 PM
Verifiable Publications: Semjase Kontakt Berichte, 2nd ed. Vol. 23, pg. 4601, 2009
Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 11, pg. 447-448, 2010
Type of Claim: not 100%
Corroborated Article(s) None

Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 11, pg. 447-448, 2010

Billy:
(…) But since we are talking about Mars, the red planet, the Red Meteor comes to my mind, of which it is written in a prophecy. I don’t know it exactly anymore, but Quetzal told me that it will enter into Earth’s orbit even if the prophecy regarding the Earth humans’ evil machinations and wars would not be fulfilled, because the appearance of the meteor is not a prophecy, but a prediction and, therefore, a cosmic event. If I remember correctly, he said that the great danger by the meteor would threaten Earth on the 13th April 2029, while at the same time he also named a date for the year 2036.

Ptaah:
(…)
129. And what to say about Quetzal’s prediction regarding the meteor; I can only confirm his information.

Contact Date: Contact Report 475, Wednesday, November 26, 2008, 2:16 PM
Verifiable Publications: Semjase Kontakt Berichte, 2nd ed. Vol. 24, pg. 4657-4658, 2010
Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 11, pg. 496, 2010
Type of Claim: not 100%
Corroborated Article(s) None

Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 11, pg. 496, 2010

Billy:
Regarding the Red Meteor that endangers Earth on the 13th of April, 2029 and of which we have already spoken on the 16th of September, I have been asked about certain things and, therefore, would like to know how big that bloke is. To my knowledge the terrestrial astronomers have already detected it for quite some time and are calling it Apophis or something. It shall either hit Earth in the year 2029, or only whizzing by very closely. Should it be the latter case, it (the meteor) would reappear in the year 2036 and its close approach to Earth could really lead to a catastrophe if the scientists undertake nothing against it.

Ptaah:
152. Its size is about 350 metres.
153. What you are saying regarding the great danger that the Red Meteor represents to Earth: the scientists know about it.
154. And if there will be no special influence by the outer SOL “trabants” (note by the translator: objects circling around and at great distance from our sun), a catastrophe really threatens the Earth.
155. In order to avoid it the terrestrial scientists are also urged to undertake every conceivable possibility to ultimately push the meteor from its orbit.

Billy:
To my knowledge various models exist for this purpose, but the scientists cannot come to a mutual agreement on this. You are saying that the fellow shall be pushed from its orbit, and I gather from it that blowing it up is out of question.Therefore, only a reaction principle could be applied, like e.g. an extremely strong nuclear reaction unit, sun sail principles, or atomic explosions near the meteor.

Ptaah:
156. Whereby atomic explosions near the meteor should be considered, because they are very efficient and produce a strong drift(ing) effect.
157. However, the explosions may not occur too close to the meteor in order to avoid breaking it up, from which an even greater danger would result.
158. Such a project must be executed early and not at that time when the real danger is starting to threaten, because otherwise it would be too late for a success.
159. Therefore working towards it must be started today.

Billy:
And what about big reaction units and sun sail principles?

Ptaah:
160. Those are also possibilities, but they are much more difficult to carry out, and the necessary effectiveness is questionable; besides, with regard to their efficiency they are not to be recommended because meteors are unstable with regard to a regular self-position which makes the application of any effective reaction units and sun sails etc. nearly impossible.

Billy:
Those things have to be profoundly thought about by the scientists.

Ptaah:
161. That’s really so, but time presses.

Contact Date: Contact Report 544, Saturday, September 1, 2012
Verifiable Publications: Semjase Kontakt Berichte, 2nd ed. Vol. 27, 2014
Type of Claim: 100%
Corroborated Article(s) None

Semjase Kontakt Berichte, 2nd ed. Vol. 27, 2014

Billy:
(…) then quickly the question in relation to the prophetically announced Red Meteor: does this also come from the Oort cloud?

Ptaah:
That is actually right, and if nothing special results which changes its orbit through any emerging unexpected factors or that it is modified by the Earth human beings, then it will result in the prophecies fulfilling themselves.

Analysis

IOI:

Since it is important which claim about the ‘Red Meteor’ was made when, we will first list the Contact Reports and the specific claims that were made in each of them.

Contact Report 150, October 10, 1981 (first published in Und sie fliegen doch!, 1991)

Contact Report 471, September 16, 2008 (first published in Semjase Kontakt Berichte, 2nd ed. Vol. 23, 2009)

Contact Report 475, Wednesday, November 26, 2008 (first published in Semjase Kontakt Berichte, 2nd ed. Vol. 24, 2010)

Contact Report 544, Saturday, September 1, 2012 (first published in Semjase Kontakt Berichte, 2nd ed. Vol. 27, 2014)

Chronology of publications

In CR 150, first published in 1991, Meier refers to an earlier prophecy that speaks about the Red Meteor. We have not been able to find this original prophecy in any of the FIGU literature, so we are limited to the information in CR 150. This is somewhat incomplete, no specific information is given on the size, orbit, (potential) impact date etc. of the Red Meteor, yet it is not completely unfalsifiable. Apparently a ‘meteor‘ of ‘enormous‘ size, which comes from the depths of outer space to the SOL-system for the first time, will threaten to split the crust between the North Sea down to the Black Sea. Would this indeed happen, or would at least astronomers determine that this is bound to happen, it would be a strong corroboration of Meier’s information.

Let’s skip ahead to June 19, 2004. On this day, the asteroid 99942 Apophis is discovered by the scientists. Just like with the asteroid 2003 QQ47, this asteroid caused a brief period of concern in December 2004 because initial observations indicated a probability of up to 2.7% that it would hit Earth on April 13, 2029. Later, the impact possibility for 2029 was eliminated, but there was still a minor chance that it would pass a keyhole in 2029 that would alter the trajectory of Apophis (because of Earths gravity) and set it on a collision course with Earth in 2036.

In CR 471 once again the Red Meteor is discussed by Meier with the Plejaren Ptaah. Meier recalls a conversation with Quetzal in which he allegedly mentioned that the Red Meteor would threaten Earth on April 13, 2029. Apparently this conversation was never documented, CR 150 doesn’t mention this date nor have we been able to find it anywhere else in the earlier published FIGU material. In CR 475 the Red Meteor is discussed again and it turns out the Red Meteor is now linked to the asteroid Apophis. The conversation implies there is at least a significant chance (though not an absolute certainty) that Apophis will impact on Earth in 2029 or 2036 if nothing is done to change its orbit.

Petale Prophecy

The information about the Red Meteor has been highlighted since 2009 by Michael Horn as “an abundance of documented proof that Billy Meier has published specific, prophetically accurate information about Apophis.” Apart from the information from the contact reports (which will be dealt with later), his webpage also contains a Petale Prophecy*, received and typed down by Meier on Saturday, January 31, 1976, 01:05 AM (published in Prophetien, pg. 42-43, 1982 and Prophetien und Voraussagen, pg. 55, 1996):

A meteor from space – comet-like, 
races close and crashes in the big pond, 
the air it burns up as a glowing ball, 
in the year of the three-value, with terrible sound, 
with terrible howling, gigantic power, 
as death-missile it crashes on the Earth. 
As concentrated power racing through space, 
it brings a deadly destroying seed. 
Mountains, they crash and life, it dies; 
a death-monster, which now spoils much, 
loud cry the people all together in one voice, 
their misery upward to Creation in heaven. 
They scream and cry and plead to her, 
for much blessing and love and help from now on 
but they never thought about the great law, 
about the love-request, which they broke. 
They lived along, passing Creation by, 
because all-the-while love was all the same to them. 
Only the punishing power of the highest one, 
allows a few to find their way back to the greatest One.

* Meier allegedly receives these prophecies from the highly evolved spirit level ‘Petale’ in a telepathically transmitted symbol language, which he then has to interpret and write down in German.

Michael Horn presents the 1976 prophecy in poetic form as a piece of evidence of Meier’s foreknowledge of Apophis, several decades before it was discovered by terrestrial science. Obviously, this prophecy is far too general and unspecific to be tied to any asteroid or comet in particular. Ironically this is illustrated by the fact that this prophecy was already earlier linked to an asteroid other than Apophis in an article by FIGU Core Group member Bernadette Brand in Stimme der Wassermannzeit, Nr. 78, pg. 23-27, March 1991  titled ‘Erfüllt sich bald eine weitere Prophetie?’ (Will another prophecy be fulfilled soon?). In this article the above Petale Prophecy was linked to the asteroid (4953) 1990 MU, discovered on June 23, 1990.

One reason she linked this asteroid with the Petale Prophecy could be because of the hint in the fourth line, which says that the time of impact would be in the year of the three-value”. This means that the all digits in a year should count up to three, According to the articles mentioned by Brand published in the newspapers the Tages Anzeiger (Zurich) and Der Landbote (Winterthur) on August 20, 1990, it was initially speculated that it might impact with the Earth in 1992 (or several thousands of years later). When we add all the individual digits of the year ‘1992’ we get 21 (1+9+9+2) and then if we again add those remaining individual digits of ’21’ we get 3 (2+1).

Naturally, this would also fit with many other years, for example 2001, 2010, 2019, 2028, 2037 etc., so any asteroid or comet that would come dangerously close in those years would fit the prophecy, at least until it has passed and didn’t impact  Earth. This link lists all the predicted close encounters by Potentially Hazardous Asteroids (PHAs) within 0.05 AU of the Earth from 2014 through 2178. Many PHAs are listed that will closely approach Earth in the years with a ‘3’ value. This renders the scientific validation of the Petale prophecy as null since it can be recycled again and again for many countless years.

Now back to Michael Horn’s claim.
On the radio show Coast to Coast AM on July 28, 2004 (just after 1:05:00 minutes into the show) Michael mentioned that the Red Meteor might come dangerously close or may impact the Earth in a year with a numerological value of ‘3’ and gave two examples, 2010 and 2019, for illustration purposes. However, according to the information conveyed to Meier by the Plejaren in 2008 (CR 471),, the years in which Apophis will come close to Earth are given as 2029 and 2036, which yields the values of 4 and 2 respectively, but not 3. The first year with a 3 value in which Apophis will approach Earth will be 2091, but for 2029 and 2036 this prophecy obviously cannot be linked to Apophis. Even though the information from CR 471 clearly contradicts the information from Petale Prophecy, Michael Horn/Billy Meier seems to have no qualms in promoting the information contained in both the CR 471 and the Petale prophecy together.

Stuart Robbins

Regarding the Red Meteor information in the contact reports, postdoctoral researcher in astronomy Stuart Robbins already took it upon himself to do some research into the claims of Meier/Michael Horn and wrote a few of articles on this alleged prophetic information which he published on his website:

Size of Apophis

On January 14, 2013 Michael Horn posted on his blog that scientists corrected their size estimation of Apophis from 270 meters to 325 meters, which comes close to the figure of 350 meters Ptaah gave Meier in CR 475. This may seem remarkable, although technically 350 meters is still outside the range of 325 ± 15 meters (= between 310 and 340 meters) indicated by the measurements of the Herschel space observatory. However, Wikipedia reads the following:

“Based upon the observed brightness, Apophis’s diameter was initially estimated at 450 metres (1,480 ft); a more refined estimate based on spectroscopic observations at NASA‘s Infrared Telescope Facility in Hawaii by Binzel, Rivkin, Bus, and Tokunaga (2005) is 350 metres (1,150 ft).”

It’s remarkable that the size mentioned in CR 475 exactly matches an earlier size estimation of Apophis by terrestrial science. Later, the size estimate for Apophis was changed multiple times. Using wayback machine for NASA’s data page for Apophis we can see the history of Apophis size estimate. For this page wayback machine goes back as far as October 18, 2005. Below a list of dates on which the size estimate on the page was changed compared to the previous version of the page that was archived in wayback machine:

October 18, 2005 – 320 meters
October 24, 2006 – 250 meters
July 1, 2008 – 270 meters
February 27, 2013 – 330 meters

This doesn’t necessarily mean a new measurement was actually made on these dates, this could have been months before the value on the page was updated. For example the figure of 270 meters already shows up in this article from October 16, 2007, at least 6 months before the date was changed on NASA’s page. It is clear though that during the time CR 475 allegedly took place (November 26, 2008) and was published (2010) the latest size estimate was 270 meters. Does that suggest Meier indeed got accurate information from extraterrestrial source? Actually, no. It is not an unknown phenomenon that media are often very sloppy in checking their sources, and a figure that has been used during the time that something was a ‘hot topic’, like for example the possible impact of Apophis on Earth, will often be recycled over and over again in later articles, despite the fact that it has been corrected in the mean time. Since 350 meters was one of the early size estimates, it isn’t surprising that during the period CR allegedly took place and was published, both the figure of 270 and the 350 meters were available in articles referring to Apophis. Just a small selection of news articles in which both values are mentioned:

August 15, 2006 – 350 meters: Asteroid and comet impacts: the ultimate environmental catastrophe
October 29, 2007 – 350 meters: Protecting Earth Against Asteroids
April 15, 2008 – 270-350 meters: 13 Yr. Old German Corrects NASA’s 99942 Apophis Impact Probability Calculations
April 19, 2008 – 270 meters: How Big is Apophis?
November 3, 2008 – 270 meters: Astronomers hunt for Earth-bound killer rocks
December 30, 2009 – 270 meters: Russia May Head Mission to Deflect Asteroid Apophis
December 31, 2009 – 350 meters: Russia’s secret plan to save Earth from asteroid
August 1, 2010 – 270 meters: Odds of Earth Getting Slammed by Asteroid in 2182 is About 1-in-2000
October 27, 2010 – 350 meters: Apophis’ power surpasses all nuclear arsenals on Earth

To illustrate how long an obsolete value is still used by media, check this article from December 30, 2014, which still mentions a size of 350 meters, despite linking to a NASA page which mentions a size of 330 meters (325 rounded to 330). If one would have done a quick internet search during the period 2008-2010 period for the size of Apophis and accept the first value that shows up, one would most likely end up with either 270 or 350 meters. This doesn’t conclusively prove Meier got his information on the size of Apophis from news articles etc., but it also certainly isn’t clearly evident that he got it from extraterrestrials, to say the least.

Origin of the Red Meteor

According to Quetzal in CR 150 the Red Meteor “approaches from the depths of outer space towards the SOL-system and is a so-called stranger (German: Fremdling)” and it ” travels on a path, which leads it to the SOL-system for the first time.” In CR 544 Ptaah confirms the Red Meteor is from the Oort cloud. This seems to be contradictory, as the Oort cloud is considered as the outer boundary of the Solar System, still a part of the Solar System. Nevertheless one could also argue that the Oort cloud region is considered as ‘the depths of outer space’, since the border between the solar system and ‘outer space’ cannot be clearly defined. Or maybe the Red Meteor came from other systems and spent some time in the Oort cloud before entering the inner solar system for the first time. But does this information actually fit with Apophis?

Apophis asteroid belongs to a group known as Aten family. These do not belong to the asteroid belt and their orbits are at least for the greatest part within the orbit of the Earth, resulting in orbital periods of less than a year. The first illustration below shows the region where these asteroids orbit around the sun. According to the The SAO Encyclopedia of Astronomy, “although some are no doubt extinct cometary nuclei, it is now thought that the majority originate in the main asteroid belt.” The second illustration shows the orbit of Apophis. As can be seen its orbit is relatively circular and lies within the ecliptic plane.

Objects originating from the Oort cloud are typically long period comets (only roughly one to two percent of the Oort cloud objects are asteroids) with highly elliptical orbits which come from all directions, while Apophis is an asteroid with with a rather circular orbit in the ecliptic plane and an orbital period of less than a year. These facts speak strongly against an origin from the Oort cloud and that it would travel “on a path, which leads it to the SOL-system for the first time” as Quetzal states in CR 150.

The Aten asteroid group (shown in green). The Sun is in the center, with the planets Mercury (black), Venus (yellow), Earth (blue) and Mars (red).

Asteroid Apophis Orbit

Orbit of the asteroid Apophis around the Sun

When this was pointed out to Meier by Mahesh Karumudi on March 29, 2015 in FIGU Q/A forum, Meier responded as follows:

Billy,
According to your information (Contact Report 544) the Red Meteor/Apophis has an origin in the Oort Cloud.
http://futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_544

Meier:
…Dazu dann auch gleich die Frage in bezug auf den prophetisch angekündeten Roten Meteor: Kommt dieser auch aus der Oortschen Wolke?
Ptaah:
Das ist tatsächlich richtig..

Typical characteristics for objects from the Oort Cloud, according to science are:

– They approach the inner solar system from all directions, not only within the ecliptic plane
– They are usually comets (only roughly 1 to 2 percent are asteroids)
– They have highly elliptical, long period orbits

Likewise according to science, Apophis has rather a short orbital period (less than a year) and rather circular orbit within the ecliptic plane. And it is referred to as a near-Earth asteroid belonging to ATEN group (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aten_asteroid) – broadly speaking asteroids that are inside Mars orbit. See the following link for Apophis orbital path.
http://www.daviddarling.info/images/Apophis_orbit.gif

How do you explain this apparent discrepancy?

Practical everything (all such objects) comes from the Oort Cloud / Kuiper Belt.
And regarding the Red Meteor it can be assumed that Ptaah is more knowledgeable in astronomical matters than terrestrial scientists.

In his first statement Meier apparently says that all objects like meteors, asteroids and comets originate in the Kuiper Belt or the Oort Cloud. Though it is true that the origin of comets is attributed to both the Kuiper belt and the Oort cloud, the currently accepted origin of Near Earth Asteroids is the asteroid belt between the orbits of Mars and Jupiter.

Possible impact on Earth

In PPKB 4, 2004 (CR 150) it was mentioned 3 times that the Red Meteor would split the Earth’s crust from today’s North Sea down to the Black Sea. As a side note, in ‘Und sie fliegen doch!’, 1991, two times the Baltic Sea instead of the North Sea was mentioned, and in SKB 11, one time the Baltic Sea instead of the North Sea was mentioned. But let’s assume these were mistakes and the correct region of the crack is from the North Sea to the Black Sea.

The following excerpt regarding the possible impact location is from Wikipedia:

“In 2008, the B612 Foundation made estimates of Apophis’s path if a 2036 Earth impact were to occur, as part of an effort to develop viable deflection strategies.[41] The result was a narrow corridor a few kilometers wide, called the “path of risk”, extending across southern Russia, across the north Pacific (relatively close to the coastlines of California and Mexico), then right between Nicaragua and Costa Rica, crossing northern Colombia and Venezuela, ending in the Atlantic, just before reaching Africa.[42] Using the computer simulation tool NEOSim, it was estimated that the hypothetical impact of Apophis in countries such as Colombia and Venezuela, which were in the path of risk, could have more than 10 million casualties.[43] An impact in the Atlantic or Pacific oceans would produce a devastating tsunami.[44]

As can be seen on the map, the region between the North Sea and the Black Sea isn’t on any possible impact location. Furthermore, this was only a calculation that would be valid if Apophis would pass through a small keyhole during it’s close approach to Earth in 2029. In the mean time, NASA has ruled out the possibility that this will happen, so Apophis will not impact Earth in 2036. There are still many chances of Apophis impacting Earth after 2036, but as it look now, these chances are very small at least up to the year 2105.

In summary, before Apophis was discovered in 2004 Meier/FIGU only published information about a so called Red Meteor which came to the solar system for the first time from the depths of outer. This ‘meteor’ (meteor is an incorrect term for an object in space) could impact on Earth and would split the crust from the North Sea to the Black Sea if nothing would be done to change its orbit. No information on the size, orbit, impact date etc. was given. After the asteroid Apophis was discovered in 2004, the Red Meteor is linked to Apophis and additional information is given, which however was already published in the media. The size Meier was given conveniently matches an already obsolete size estimate that was still occasionally used by the media. The characteristics of Apophis (composition, orbit, orbital period etc.) strongly speak against an origin from the Oort cloud, as Meier was allegedly told.

CR 155 (1981)


‘The Chronicle of Akakor’ & Murders

Contact Date: Sunday, December 6, 1981, 10:45 PM
Verifiable Publications: Semjase Kontakt Berichte, 2nd ed. Vol. 11, pg. 2178-2179, 1994
Prophetien und Voraussagen, pg. 219-220, 1996
Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 4, pg. 330-331, 2004
Type of Claims: 100%
Corroborated Article(s) None

Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 4, pg. 330-331, 2004

Quetzal:
75. …
76. But now, we should turn again to other things because a question from you is still open, which you already gave us a long time ago, but which we couldn’t answer to your satisfaction because we first had to fathom and clarify everything.
77. By this, I’m referring to the question that you asked in the name of Helmut Reiz, with regard to the book “The Chronicle of Akakor” and the one who appears in it, TATUNCA NARA, chief of the white Indian peoples known as the Ugha Mongulala, written by an ARD correspondent named Karl Brugger.
78. The entire history of the alleged Chief Tatunca Nara is based on lies and deception, just like the one named Tatunca Nara, who, in truth, was born a German.
79. His real name is Hansi Richard Günter Hauck, who has learned the trade of a bricklayer and who was born on the 5th of October, 1941 as a son of Johann Hauck and Meta Hauck and who was born in Grub am Forst in Bayern.
80. Married on February 15th, 1962, he disappeared a few years later, after which his marriage was ended by divorce by the district court, Nürnberg-Fürth, on the 10th of January, 1966.
81. After his willful abandonment of his wife, he worked for a short time on a ship named DORTE OLDENDORF, from which he soon departed, however, and disappeared into South America, where he entered into strange connections with the Brazilian Secret Service SNI, then conspired with the military there and then settled down in the jungle under a fanciful pack of lies, in order to appear from then on as Chief Tatunca Nara and to make talk of himself.
82. Thanks to the dreamers Erich von Daniken and Peter Krassa, as well as the correspondent Dieter Kronzucker, his pack of lies has been carried out and distributed into the world, which entailed that various people fell into the murderous clutches of Hansi Hauck, whom he then treacherously murdered in the depths of the jungle, in order to get at their money and valuables.
83. Unfortunately, through the fault of the money-greedy dreamers and believers in the matter of Tatunca Nara, it also won’t be avoided in the future that other people will fall victim to his murderous sense and greed, such as the correspondent Karl Brugger, whom Hauck will allow to be shot by an assassin in Rio de Janeiro in the year 1984.
84. Also a Swiss named Herbert Wanner from Zofingen will become one of his victims, as well as a German living in Sweden and who bears the name Christine Häuser, but also an Englishman by the name of John Ried.
85. However, these won’t be the only murder victims in the life of Hansi Hauck because by the time of the murder of Karl Brugger in Rio, Hauck will already be a 12-time murderer.

Billy:
Man, and of course, once again, nothing can be done about this?

Quetzal:
86. That is of correctness.
87. Everything is already predetermined in such a way that it can no longer be stopped by any means.

Billy:
Also responsible for this is, indeed, the damn delusional faith of human beings, who are still fueled by the likes of Erich von Däniken and Peter Krassa and through whom they still earn huge sums of money thereby.

Quetzal:
88. That is also of correctness because by such fantasy-story writers, many people become led astray and even led to such degenerated human beings, such as this Hansi Hauck.
89. Not only are the misled and fantasy believers confused and partially or heavily disturbed in their consciousnesses by fantasy writers such as Erich von Däniken and Peter Krassa, but they also sometimes run the risk of losing their lives, like in this case.
90. However, this disturbs the fantasy writers very little or not at all because for them, it is always just important that they obtain prestige and riches through their fantasy stories and writings, which truly have no significant value, however.

Analysis

IOI:

  1. TATUNCA NARA, chief of the white Indian peoples known as the Ugha Mongulala, is a German-born named Hansi Richard Günter Hauck
  2. Murder of Karl Brugger in Rio de Janeiro in 1984
  3. Murders of Herbert Wanner, Christine Häuser and John Ried

The following excerpts are from an internet article titled ‘The legend of Akakor’ by Philip Coppens:

“The legend of Akakor unexpectedly received an entirely new dimension when Karl Brugger was murdered leaving a restaurant in Rio de Janeiro on January 1, 1984 (…) In 1980, Tatunca left with the American John Reed on such an expedition, but only Tatunca Nara returned; what happened to John Reed is unknown, but it is assumed he died in the rain forest. In 1983, Tatunca left with the Swiss explorer Herbert Wanner, and he didn’t return either. (…) In 1987, the Swedish Christine Heuser also left with Nara on an expedition, and disappeared as well.
(…)
What is less known – the Final Act – is that – alas – the story of Akakor turned out to be a fraud. The story was unravelled when Tatunca Nara was exposed as being in truth one Günther Hauck, a German ex-pat. The discovery was made by the German adventurer Rüdiger Nehberg and film director Wolfgang Brög. Brög tricked Tatunca to take him onto an expedition, during which his story began to unravel. It then became clear that Tatunca had left Germany in 1967, which explained why he spoke perfect German, yet broken Portuguese. Apparently, he left Germany as he was trying to escape imprisonment due to unpaid alimony after a divorce in 1966. Since, his ex-wife has confirmed that Hauck is indeed the “Tatunca Nara” on Brugger’s photos and there are also pre-1968 German court proceedings that mention Hauck preferred to go by a nickname Tatunge Nare.”

So the events Meier mentioned have indeed occurred, but CR 155 was only published in Semjase Kontakt Berichte, 2nd ed. Vol. 11, 1994, nearly a decade after the events occurred and were already reported or speculated in the media etc. Although some parts of the story which are stated as a matter of fact by Quetzal are speculative to a certain extent (like whether or not Günter Hauck indeed was responsible for the murder of Brugger, Wanner, Häuser and Reed) it is not unlikely for them to be true. It’s only difficult to conclusively prove it.

For more information also refer to an LA Times article published in July 29, 1990 – ‘Searching for Heart of Darkness : A woman’s tortured effort to find a brother who disappeared spans three continents. It leads to a mysterious–and possibly murderous–Amazon guide’.

CR 172 (1982)


Vatican Banker Roberto Calvi was murdered

Contact Date: Sunday, July 4, 1982, 11:03 AM
Verifiable Publications: Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 4, pg. 435, 2004
Type of Claims: 100%
Corroborated Article(s) February 18, 2002

Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 4, pg. 435, 2004

Billy:
Until we meet again. It’s enough for me today, too. Oh yes, wait, I have one more question: on June 18th, Roberto Calvi, the head of Italy’s largest private bank, was discovered in London, hanging from a bridge.  Did he commit suicide; do you know anything about this?

Quetzal:
118. I am oriented over it.
119. The man did not commit suicide, but he was strangled, and this was in connection with a very intricate matter, in which the Vatican and the secret services and also intelligence agencies played important roles.
120. But about this, I want to tell you the following in confidence, which you must keep to yourself for the next 20 years:
121. …

Billy:
Thank you for your trust. Then I now have nothing more. Farewell.

Quetzal:
122. Until we meet again.

Analysis

Wikipedia reads the following on Roberto Calvi’s death:

In 1991 the Calvi family commissioned the New York-based investigation company Kroll Associates to investigate the circumstances of Calvi’s death. The case was assigned to Jeff Katz, who was then a senior case manager for the company in London. As part of his two-year investigation, Katz instructed former Home Office forensic scientists, including Angela Gallop, to undertake forensic tests. As a result, it was found that Calvi could not have hanged himself from the scaffolding because the lack of paint and rust on his shoes proved that he had not walked on the scaffolding. In October 1992 the forensic report was submitted to the Home Secretary and the City of London Police, who dismissed it at the time.

Following the exhumation of Calvi’s body in December 1998, an Italian court commissioned a German forensic scientist to repeat the work produced by Katz and his forensic team. That report was published in October 2002, ten years after the original, and confirmed the first report.

As mentioned forensic tests into the death of Vatican banker Roberto Calvi, who was found hanging from a bridge in London in 1982, show he was murdered (see this article from 2002). Besides, there were already rumors since the time of his death that it wasn’t a suicide but a murder.

In verse 120 Meier was told by Quetzal to withhold this information for the next 20 years from 1982 i.e. until 2002, which he apparently did, because in Semjase Kontakt Berichte, 2nd ed. Vol.12, 1995, on pg. 2278 contact report 172 simply ends with Meier saying: “Until we meet again. It’s enough for me today, too.” Only in 2004, 12 years after the 1st forensic report and 2 years after the 2nd forensic report came out, the rest of the contact was published in PPKB 4. Curiously, what was said in verse 121 was still not revealed, even when in 2004 the time period during which Meier had to withhold this information already ended.

Obviously, because Meier only published this information after it was already known, it cannot be used as evidence for Meier’s foreknowledge, yet it is still being promoted by Michael Horn as “prophetically accurate scientific information” here, here and here.

CR 182 (1983)


Neptune has a ring

Contact Date: Thursday, February 3, 1983, 10:31 PM
Verifiable Publications: Existentes Leben im Universum, pg. 94-95, 1993
Semjase Kontakt Berichte, 2nd ed. Vol. 12, pg. 2345, 1995
Prophetien und Voraussagen, pg. 240, 1996
Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 5, pg. 47, 2004
Type of Claims: 100%
Corroborated Article(s) None

Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 4, pg. 47, 2004

Billy:
By the ring of Neptune, if the people of the Earth would let themselves be led and taught, then a lot of the evil of this world could lie in overpopulation.

Quetzal:
530. That is absolutely correct.
531. The majority of all vile things, machinations, and catastrophes must be searched for in overpopulation.
532. But I never talked to you about the other matter.
533. How do you know that?

Billy:
I don’t understand you?

Quetzal:
534. You spoke of the ring of Neptune.
535. According to my knowledge, I’ve never told you that even this planet has a ring.

Billy:
Oh, I see; Semjase used this expression once, after which I asked her for the meaning. She then explained to me that even Neptune has a ring, like all the giant planets of the SOL system. So thus, my wisdom.

Quetzal:
536. Semjase shouldn’t have done that, for this fact still isn’t known to the Earth people.
537. Yet it has happened, and on the other hand, this truth will, indeed, be discovered in the coming years.

Billy:
So it will soon no longer be a secret.

Quetzal:
538. That is correct…

Analysis

IOI:

  1. Neptune has a ring just like all the giant planets of the SOL-system
  2. The people on Earth still didn’t know this in 1983

After the discovery of the rings of Uranus in 1977 planetary scientists began searching for rings around Neptune. The method used to detect rings is to search for occultations of stars, that is, starlight is blocked by an object or objects between the observer (on Earth) and the star. If this happens close to a planet this could possibly indicate a ring. Observations of occultations were made in 1981 and 1983, but didn’t conclusively prove a ring or rings around Neptune. However in 1984 scientists detected a segment that went around Neptune and they called it an ‘Arc’ in order to avoid confusion with the word ‘ring’, which, unlike an arc, is a closed belt of material that goes completely around the planet (Source: Occultation detection of a Neptune ring segment, 1985)

The first direct evidence of these arcs of Neptune came in August 12, 1989, they were seen in photographs transmitted by the space probe Voyager II, and 11 days later on August 23, new photographs transmitted by Voyager II provided evidence that these arcs actually encircle the planet and form a complete ring.

1. Neptune has a ring just like all the giant planets of the SOL-system

In CR 182 Meier and Quetzal speak about ‘a ring’ of Neptune. This suggests a singular ring i.e. only one ring around Neptune, but Neptune 6 rings and also the other giant planets have a so called ‘ring-system’, consisting of multiple rings. Only in the book ‘Existentes Lebens Im Universum’, pg. 94-95 published in 1993 Meier mentioned ‘rings’ and even then it is not entirely clear whether it implies the multiple rings of each giant planet or all the singular rings of all the giant planets:

“Riesenplaneten, so also Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus und Neptun, sind umgeben von Ringen, wie solche auch vom Saturn her bekannt sind. Bei den anderen Planeten, ausser bei Saturn und Uranus, sind die Ringe sehr lichtschwach, weshalb sie von der Erde aus z.Z. noch nicht beobachtet und nicht festgestellt werden können (…) Alle damaligen Ringe aber waren von immenser Leuchtkraft, auch die von Uranus und Neptun und Jupiter, der ja auch über einen schwachen, jedoch nicht mehr leuchtenden Ring verfügt.”

“Giant planets, such as Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune, are surrounded by rings, as they are also known from Saturn. For the other planets, except Saturn and Uranus, the rings are very faint, so they currently cannot be observed and found from the Earth (…) All former rings were of immense luminosity, including those of Uranus and Neptune and Jupiter, which indeed has a weak, but no more luminous ring.”

In later publications (Semjase Kontakt Berichte, 2nd ed. Vol. 12, 1995, Prophetien und Voraussagen, pg. 240, 1996 and in Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 5, pg. 47, 2004) Meier and Quetzal only talk about ‘a ring’. Of course it is possible that in a ‘casual’ conversation the ring system is referred to as ring, but when considering this as evidence for an extraordinary source of information a bit more precise and correct phrasing would be required to qualify. Also this information should have had to be verifiably published before it was discovered by terrestrial science.

2. People on Earth do not know this fact in the year 1983

At the time the 182nd contact allegedly took place (February 3, 1983) there was no conclusive evidence for a ring or ring system around Neptune, so technically, the Earth people indeed didn’t know if Neptune had a ring-system. The problem is that we also have no evidence that Meier himself actually knew about the ring system in 1983 (4 years after the discovery of Neptune’s ring system in 1989), because he only published this information first in 1993. Apparently it wasn’t even the intention to provide this information as evidence for his contacts, because it is clearly implied in CR 182 that Meier was not supposed to talk or publish about Neptune’s ring(s) before it would be discovered by terrestrial science. Of course it can therefore not be used as evidence of Meier’s foreknowledge.

But even if he would have verifiably published the same information already in 1983, it could hardly be considered iron clad evidence for his contacts. As mentioned scientists were already looking for rings around Neptune since the discovery of Uranus’ rings in 1977, so the idea already existed. Even long before that, as early as 1846, William Lassell already claimed he had observed a ring around Neptune, although this claim was never confirmed and was probably due to an observation error. So it is strange Meier was not allowed to talk about it as in 1983 scientists apparently did talk about it and it was hardly a revolutionary new idea, it was simply not yet conclusively proven. Yet, Michael Horn promotes this as an example of Meier’s “prophetically accurate scientific information.

Brightening of Halley’s Comet in 1991

Contact Date: Thursday, February 3, 1983, 10:31 PM
Verifiable Publications: Semjase Kontakt Berichte, 2nd ed. Vol. 12, pg. 2349-2350, 1995
Prophetien und Voraussagen, pg. 246-247, 1996
Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 5, pg. 59-60, 2004
Type of Claims: 100%
Corroborated Article(s) February 28, 1991

Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 5, pg. 59-60, 2004

Billy:
Is there anything else special in relation to the planets and such? Are there, perhaps, cosmic events that are worth knowing?

Quetzal:
574. Certainly, but the event will first report itself in the year 1991.
575. From the depths of interstellar space, a dense and immense cloud of fine matter will approach, which will have penetrated so far into the SOL system by about the middle of the month of February that it will then be located halfway between the planets Saturn and Uranus.
576. A fact that actually wouldn’t be noticed by the earthly astronomers if they wouldn’t pursue the path of Halley’s Comet, which will be located in the northern part of the constellation Hydra at that time.
577. These observations will most likely lead to the fact that a tremendous change in the fluorescent ratio of the comet will appear because it will penetrate into this cloud of interstellar dust and then cross it, which will naturally have as a consequence that powerful frictional forces will develop, which will allow the comet to light up 346 times more strongly than what is the case in its normal state.

Billy:
Then this will certainly also remain no secret to the Earth citizens, for certainly the newspapers will report about this, but probably again with incredible explanations that aren’t true.

Quetzal:
578. That might correspond to the truth.

Billy:
Thus, the usual.

Analysis

IOI:

  1. In 1991 the brightness of Halley’s comet will increase 346 times above the normal level because it will penetrate into a cloud of interstellar dust which will cause powerful friction

On February 12, 1991 ESO astronomers Olivier Hainaut and Alain Smette observed something unexpected. Halley’s comet, which 5 years before in 1986 had been visible from Earth with the naked eye while passing the Sun, had now moved more than 2140 million kilometers away from the Sun. At this distance, it should only show up as a very faint point of light, but instead a rather bright and extended “nebula” was observed which was 300 times brighter than Halley’s comet should have been. The color of the coma was very similar to the sun, suggesting that it mostly, if not exclusively, consisted of dust grains that reflect the sunlight.

Several hypotheses were postulated to explain this phenomena:

Since these hypotheses are widely different, at least it was true that this event was reported with “incredible explanations that aren’t true.” We are in no position to judge the veracity of any of these hypotheses, nor Quetzal’s ‘alternative’ explanation.

Nevertheless, would Meier have published this information before the event occurred in February 1991, it would have been strong evidence for “prophetically accurate scientific information“, as it is promoted by Michael Horn. However it was only published 12 years after the contact allegedly took place in 1995 in Semjase Kontakt Berichte, 2nd ed. Vol. 11,  so we have no evidence of Meier’s foreknowledge.

Lunar Impact Event of 1178 A.D.

Contact Date: Thursday, February 3, 1983, 10:31 PM
Verifiable Publications: Semjase Kontakt Berichte, 2nd ed. Vol. 12, pg. 2323, 1995
Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 5, pg. 20, 2004
Type of Claims: 100%
Corroborated Article(s) None

Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 5, pg. 20, 2004

Quetzal:
295. (…) what question do you still have?

Billy:
Something completely different, namely with respect to the Moon. Up there, there is a myriad of craters, such as also on Mercury or on other SOL planets and satellites. It makes me wonder now as to when the last big meteor impact took place on Earth’s satellite, how big the projectile was, and where this occurred on our moon.

Quetzal:
296. The last great impact was made by a meteorite in the year 1178, during the time of the New Moon, and the impact happened on the upper eastern quarter of the Moon.
297. The origin of the meteorite, as it was held at that time by our ancestors, lay in the asteroid belt that runs its course around the Sun between Mars and Jupiter.
298. The investigations at that time showed that in the year 408 B.C., for reasons that are inexplicable to us, a meteorite measuring 1,728 meters in diameter separated from the asteroid belt, entered into a staggering periphery course around the Sun, and ever more approached the Earth.
299. In the year A.D. 1178, it was then so far along on its direct course with Earth’s satellite that it fell on the surface of the Moon, close to the light border that is visible from the Earth.
300. As a result of this, there was an enormous explosion which hurled light waves and rocks so high above the lunar surface that the impact could even be observed from the Earth by the naked eye.

Billy:
Then it must have been really huge, nevertheless.

Quetzal:
301. So it was; that is correct.

Analysis

IOI:

  1. In 1178 A.D. a 1,728 meters wide object seperated from the asteroid belt in 408 B.C. impacted on the upper eastern quarter of the Moon during the time of the new moon, which could be observed from Earth with the naked eye

Meier and Quetzal seem to be talking about a reported event from 1178 A.D. that was originally hypothesized to be the cause of the formation of the Giordano Bruno crater. This hypothesis was later abandoned, although according to this NASA article from April 26, 2001 the size of the asteroid responsible for Giordano Bruno, which is considered to be the youngest substantial impact feature on the Moon, must have been between one and three kilometers, which would fit Meier’s information of 1,728 meters.

Following excerpts are from the Wikipedia page regarding the Giordano Bruno crater:

“Five monks from Canterbury reported to the abbey’s chronicler, Gervase, that shortly after sunset on June 18, 1178, (25 June on the proleptic Gregorian calendar) they saw “the upper horn [of the moon] split in two”. Furthermore, Gervase writes:

From the midpoint of the division a flaming torch sprang up, spewing out, over a considerable distance, fire, hot coals and sparks. Meanwhile the body of the Moon which was below writhed, as it were in anxiety, and to put it in the words of those who reported it to me and saw it with their own eyes, the Moon throbbed like a wounded snake. Afterwards it resumed its proper state. This phenomenon was repeated a dozen times or more, the flame assuming various twisting shapes at random and then returning to normal. Then, after these transformations, the Moon from horn to horn, that is along its whole length, took on a blackish appearance.[2]

In 1976, the geologist Jack B. Hartung proposed that this described the formation of the crater Giordano Bruno.[3]

Modern theories predict that a (conjectural) asteroid or comet impact on the Moon would cause a plume of molten matter rising up from the surface, which is consistent with the monks’ description. In addition, the location recorded fits in well with the crater’s location. Additional evidence of Giordano Bruno’s youth is its spectacular ray system: because micrometeorites constantly rain down, they kick up enough dust to quickly (in geological terms) erode a ray system,[4] so it can be reasonably hypothesized that Giordano Bruno was formed during the span of human history, perhaps in June 1178.

However, the question of the crater’s age is not that simple. The impact creating the 22-km-wide crater would have kicked up 10 million tons of debris, triggering a week-long, blizzard-like meteor storm on Earth – yet no accounts of such a noteworthy storm of unprecedented intensity are found in any known historical records, including the European, Chinese, Arabic, Japanese and Korean astronomical archives.[5] This discrepancy is a major objection to the theory that Giordano Bruno was formed at that time.[6]

This raises the question of what the monks saw. An alternative theory holds that the monks just happened to be in the right place at the right time to see an exploding meteor coming at them and aligned with the Moon. This would explain why the monks were the only people known to have witnessed the event; such an alignment would only be observable from a specific spot on the Earth’s surface.[7]

Also a science paper – Formation Age of the Lunar Crater Giordano Bruno – published in 2009 estimated that the age of Giordano Bruno crater is between 1 to 10 million years old, which argues against the crater’s possible formation in medieval time. Considering this age estimate and the apparent lack of large craters in the area younger than the Giordano Bruno crater, it was resolved that no crater on the Moon is related to the transient spectacle witnessed in 1178. In 2012 another science paper – The lunar crater Giordano Bruno as seen with optical roughness imagery – was published which concluded that the Giordano Bruno crater must be at least one million years old.

The link between the Giordano Bruno crater and the 1,178 A.D. event has already been suggested since at least 1976 (See NASA article). Meier’s information seems to be consistent with hypotheses regarding the crater and the 1,178 A.D. event that were around at the e time of the alleged contact (February 3, 1983) and the first publication of the contact report in 1995. But as of now, this information seems to contradict what the latest evidence seems to indicate, which is that the Giordano Bruno crater is at least a million years old instead of around 800.

Predictions for March 1983 and beyond

Contact Date: Thursday, February 3, 1983, 10:31 PM
Verifiable Publications: Semjase Kontakt Berichte, 2nd ed. Vol. 12, pg. 2311-2352, 1995
Prophetien und Voraussagen, pg. 221-250, 1996
Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 5, pg. 1-82, 2004
Type of Claims: 100%
Corroborated Article(s) Miscellaneous – refer to PPKB 5, 2004

Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 5, pg. 1-82, 2004

Analysis:

The predictive information from this CR 182 is to much to analyze here in detail, so we have just briefly listed the topics that were discussed during the contact. All of this information was only published for the first time in Semjase Kontakt Berichte, 2nd ed. Vol. 12, 1995, after the events occurred.

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