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October 25, 2017 at 3:22 PM #8809
Darius Al Jerhimardi
GuestHi Des. You wrote that well, you know too much about the fast-ageing, I have to tell you that you must have looked at it to know that.
It is the same with all the Billy Meier UFO case controversies, they are all in the public domain in full view, only we have not come around to look at them yet. Some obscure unknown authors have rarely had the detail and perspective of him and bounding the controversies into a story with extraterrestrials has never been done.
Des. You can tell people all you want and put all the answers out into the public, try to convince; they might even look at it for a short time however few will recognise the reality of it and understand it proportionally to real-life. We so few leaders who are knowledgeable enough to provide a foundation of things that make sense and they are usually in isolated communities and not famous. Without them when one tries to convince people they immediately go in their mind and world of thoughts to entertainment, fantasy, hallucinations because they have no foundation of what reality is to compare it to. All they have is years of searching for conspiracies on the internet, their education, the news, films, and books to go to.
October 25, 2017 at 4:49 PM #8811Desmond Hume
GuestDarius you said “bounding the controversies into a story with extraterrestrials has never been done”. That’s because up to the middle 19th century the majority of us could neither read nor write. These people coming along have the shear audacity to think they can not only understand complicated new basic things that have never been taught before but the audacity to think that they already understand it before they understand something. The shear audacity of some of these people is horrifying, they’ve been watching and reading seriously way too much fiction, these people must be horribly confused and disorientated. The shear audacity to think they know something simply because they’ve studied some conspiracies, most of them have not even gone to university, not that it’s a prerequisite but it certainly helps if they have been taught how to admit they don’t know something.
October 25, 2017 at 7:58 PM #8815Ed V.
GuestWhat is your evidence Desmond? You make a bunch of proclamations about ETs and seem convinced it all has to do with acids released by the brain. Can you forward a scientific study that substantiates this claim or are you just paraphrasing what the “ETs” said in Meier’s contact reports?
October 25, 2017 at 8:22 PM #8816Desmond Hume
GuestTake the time to look yourself for once. I deliberately jumped on the highlighted ageing presumably for the same reason as Darius because it’s one of the easiest controversies inside the Billy Meier controversy for anyone to access. All they need do is just look at themselves to see it. As its the easiest controversy to identify a basis in reality for, no wonder your critical of everything else.
Your on your own, see you in another life brother.
October 25, 2017 at 10:00 PM #8817Ed V.
GuestDesmond, when I talk about ageing and Telomeres there’s a simple thing you can do. A search on the internet which will probably give you this;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telomere
Ever heard about the company Monsanto and what they did to their products which basically amounts up to this;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_engineering
That’s how you change a Gene in your favor..
And I also mentioned this as a possibility to help repair the human body;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NanoroboticsCan you show me something in return that scientifically supports Meier’s information in the area of ageing?
October 26, 2017 at 1:27 AM #8818Desmond Hume
GuestNo because Wikipedia states he’s been widely characterised as a fraud and I don’t want to throw too much of my time energies into that. I’m reasonably confident that over several decades someone else has found some form of scientific evidence for it, its one of the largest of all features of the Billy Meier case so surely someone has, try Michael Horn he is Billy Meiers representative to the western democratic order and freeworld, if Michael hasn’t found any evidence in his several decades then he’s either being larking around or there isn’t any.
I’ve gotta go. And you’ve gotta get as far away from here as possible.
October 26, 2017 at 11:21 PM #8819Darius Al Jerhimardi
GuestYour lucky Desmond even gave time to explain that Ed. Most of the pro-FIGU think if the truth is not simple enough able explain a six years child it’s not worth rising or setting, to explain it. So you’ll never obtain the truth from a pro-FIGU, until they themselves read a scientific journal privately without anyone seeing. Then later in head turn it into 6 line language suitable for age group 6+ and call that truth take it or leave it, then revise it later when they have enough followers asking for a revision.
Try actual scientists. They might like it more simple than you like it however Ed.
October 26, 2017 at 11:41 PM #8820Desmond Hume
GuestWhen I turned that key (found FIGU)… my life… flashed before my eyes. And then I was back in the jungle (reality), still on this bloody island (Earth). But those flashes, Darius, those flashes, they didn’t stop.
See you in another life then, eh brother?
October 27, 2017 at 1:51 AM #8821Darius Al Jerhimardi
GuestWhat?
FIGU and Billy Meier and who ever is about humiliating people and taking their money.
Ed If you do finally find a geneticist who is able to answer the questions you feel you need ask. Can you do me a favour tell him to get in touch with me I will give him an office and tell him ‘plenty’ of money, plenty of demand for meat, if he will help me patent and copyright lab meat, grown in manufacturing environment, no living animal, help with the production facility. I’ll even give him my old bentley when the project is complete, I know plenty of investors, tell him to get in touch.
October 27, 2017 at 1:48 PM #8822Owen Truthmarrion
Guest“Impulses”, “Speed Ageing” ? I appreciate you think you might be being helpful but saying even a single thing about anything is confusing, just shut up that is the best way for smart people to help others.
You think it takes a long time for people to examine a subject all by themselves, huh it takes twice as long if you confuse them by being smart and giving them all the answers before they examine it. Now confused by your retrieved answers they are doing twice as many things, they are reorientating themselves, deveiling more of the reality they have always been facing and now trying to match then patches you’ve reviewed to a perspective they now need to discover. If your going to give out answers at a minimum you need to tell people that the consciousness has many different combination arrangements, there are many different styles of personality, you can’t be all of them at once, stop confusing people and shut up and let them see something all by themselves and die with dignity.
October 27, 2017 at 3:36 PM #8823Darius Al Jerhimardi
GuestOk this is the final dump of references from Billy Meiers books I will do for this subject, enjoy it.
Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte 8
“is the age a gene-related factor?
50. It is the carrier of hereditary characteristics in the chromosomes.55. The genes control the cellular functions via the brain and the spirit, and they steer life, regeneration and decay of the cells. (Ageing is rate of decay of the cells)
56. They determine species, shape and gender of the life form.
57. They are also the basic carrier of genes that exert their influences on the chromosomes and cause them to take on normal or faulty operation, depending on the existing factor, and also provoke mutations.
61. Each gene causes the inheritance of once existing physical characteristics.
62. Each physical characteristic contains within itself the characteristics of both authoritative factors, namely the negatives and the positives, the masculine and the feminine.
64. It may also happen that a dominant gene overshadows a recessive gene, whereby it then cannot develop.
66. Of course, genes over time are also able to change because like everything in the universe, they are also subject to an evolutionary or degenerative process.”
Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte 228
“…foods, alcohol, medicines, and drugs – which a person takes to himself – alter one’s genes, as this likewise happens through one’s consciousness-related attitude and through one’s state of psyche as well as through climatic influences, such as through cold and heat or through atmospheric changes in terms of its chemical composition, etc. I have explained this in such a way to one of our doctors, who then said that this certainly couldn’t be the case since genes would only change and develop otherwise…
64. The doctor is mistaken…”
Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte 582
“…A gene is a segment of the DNA, at the same time the genes form several aggregated bases, which make up a unit. They contain the basic information for the production of RNA, which corresponds to a section of the DNA. The genes may also be referred to as characteristic structures because they take over a particular function, such as the color of the hair, and so forth. A gene is also a hereditary factor, just because it carries the genetic information in itself. Consequently the genes are responsible for ensuring that information once stored therein, is passed on from generation to generation i.e. that characteristics once fixed in the genes, find its hereditary-based expression in the progeny i.e. is transferred, wherein the DNA also plays a role, because DNA is the actual genetic substance, out of which genes and plasmids also consist of. A gene is a DNA segment, on which the code is given for a specific protein molecule. A plasmid is a small piece of DNA, wherein this is a closed ring-form and can contain multiple genes. However, regarding the inheritance of traumatic experiences and living-experiences that are deposited in the genes by the thoughts, feelings, and by the psyche as well as by physical factors, is to be said that these are inherited through numerous generations and thus in the long run characterize the descendants and their descendants and in turn their descendants and so on and so forth. Also stress-syndromes as well as phobias and even habits and idiosyncrasies, as well as modes of behavior and body postures and body movements, etc. are just as much inheritance-based factors as well as intellect, rationality and intelligence, wherein everything can be both in the positive as well as be in the negative…”
Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte 251
“Yet, in fact, this entire matter is based upon the manipulation of single DNA gene that can be rectified, if only our geneticists were to finally discover it.”
Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte 208
6. Experiments and researches of this kind have already run in various laboratories of many earthly countries for many years, whereby also some successes were achieved.
7. However, the coming time will very quickly bring more successes in this connection, whereby it will probably be around the turn of the millennium that the entire Earth-human DNA will be decoded.
8. But already years prior to this, the relevant progresses and successes will lead to this and be constantly developed and refined, such that through this, the awareness of crimes will increase in a rising measure.
Billy.
DNA, genetic engineering, and everything connected therewith will inevitably lead in the coming time to enormous changes and progresses in a variety of scientific and technological fields. Medical science will benefit from this tremendously, as well as the biological and technical sciences.”Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte 205
15. In addition to the actual genetic engineering, as it is known to be operated, there will still arise other, very progressive, and positive things, such as stem cell technology, which will achieve great progress around the mid-nineties and will lead to much success after the turn of the millennium, by what means in the course of time, many sorrows of the Earth people can be removed.
Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte 540
They are absolutely incapable of comprehending how solitary, hard and rocky is the road which must be taken in the honesty and the modesty, among the people on this earth, and they haven’t one iota of a clue as to the efforts which are connected with everything. But in their unhonesty, lying, cheating and slandering they can not and will not comprehend the whole thing, because would they do that and thereby understand everything, then they would destroy the effects of their dirty deeds, intrigues and their imagined positions of power and leave them to be alarmingly small and insignificant.
Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte 185
“…The people of this world are really very strange and amusing. All progress, love, knowledge, wisdom, logic, and everything worth knowing is served to them on a silver platter, yet the people do not reach for it but rather simply push it away and destroy it. And all this, even though they actually want to have it unconditionally. But instead, they push away what they want to have and what they want to call their own, and so, they are dissatisfied in evil ways and can never do what they actually want to do. Thus, their own desires neither find fulfillment nor satisfaction because these desires always remain unfulfilled, as well as the actions, deeds, and businesses that would like to be done by these people – and which only remain as wants. So it is with these people of the world…”
Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte 208
“…the so-called neurotransmitter, serotonin, restrains aggression. The greater the amount of serotonin is in the brain of the person, the less aggressive the person would be”
Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte 443
“…belong just as much in the realm of the nonsense and feeblemindedness of illusory and fantasy-rich conspiracy theories as also do other similar kinds of works which, if I may use your words, must be labelled as sheer idiocy and schizophrenic delusional imaginings.”
Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte 296
“…59. Even with ourselves all people and races work together, everyone will still remain, with the individual people and race to which they belong.
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…At the same time however also the exploitation of citizens is furthered, because the alien overpopulation costs a lot of taxes as well as contribution money. And if you say something against this, then you will be described as racist and if possible still be summoned before a court”
Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte 204
“19…this fact will first be recognized toward the end of this millennium, as well as other matters that are determined by the genes.
20. Thus, for example, anxiety, sexual addiction, addiction to adrenalin rushes, addiction to extreme sports of every kind, addiction to the enthusiasm and fanaticism relating to the sporty or other achievements of other people, etc.
21. That is absolutely in the realm of possibility if the person consciously and willingly concentrates on neutralizing, altering, or dissolving the genetic effects, which can usually be done in a mild way by the fact that distance is taken and achieved from those things that are the reason for the enthusiasm or fanaticism.
22. The best way to do this is through a healthy self-initiative, through which things are personally done, actions are accomplished, or businesses are conducted, and so on, which require one’s own logical thinking as well as one’s own motivations and strengths, by what means successes are produced.
23. Thus, the effects of the genes are canceled by this and can be changed for the better.
Billy
But on the other hand, earthly genetic researchers, etc. say that this isn’t possible.24. That represents an erroneous assertion.
25. At a later date, this statement of truth will have to have its rightful place, which won’t be too far away because the initial findings of relevant kinds will already disprove the old conventional and erroneous conclusions in a few years.”
Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte 222
“…Already several times, we’ve talked about gene technology and gene manipulation, etc., about which a lot of senseless fuss will be made in the coming time, and indeed, especially by the so-called progress opponents and, in this case, even the genetic opponents, who will conjure up death and the devil with absurd assertions and scare tactics, in order to thwart, stop, and denigrate genetic research and gene technology. This in ignorance of the fact that already for many years, genetically modified vegetables, fruits, and other foods have been produced and have been on the market and have also been eaten by the genetic opponents unknowingly and without hesitation as well as without harm. Now, the question about this is whether this fact will actually be concealed much longer?
42. Silence will probably rule over this for good, because otherwise, an uproar would be caused by the genetic opponents.”
October 27, 2017 at 5:59 PM #8824Owen Truthmarrion
GuestManage your expectations. There is no scientific evidence. Take a look at the fuels we use to power our energy sources, then take a look at the date the Internet was created, then look at the space flight machines we have then look at some of the social systems we have and take a look at the dates these were created, most of them in the last 200 years, and you expect scientific evidence now now now now, our science fiction books and movies have gone much further than the reality has and so has many of the ideas people think now is normal, there is no star wars or star trek there never has been, nor will there ever be, even some people think that one day we will have a star trek no we won’t, the reality of the natural laws which we’ve only discovered in the last 200 years means that star wars is not possible, people are too complicated for these stupid models of the future, if anything in the future we will move back to the countryside not a growing of cities at all. Manage all of your expectations and make sure you take a very thorough look at the dates things were discovered and invented would you then look at how long the social revolution took to happen after the dates of the original discoveries, then take a look at the even longer dates it took after those revolutions for any actual action and lifestyle change to occur, take a look at yourself and your local environment. Then you may grasp the fast ageing thing.
October 30, 2017 at 4:56 PM #8861Darius Al Jerhimardi
GuestHi, I found some more interesting references to ‘impulses’ and ‘fast-ageing’.
Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte 306
“Billy
What do you mean by “not long?” Fifty years or a hundred years?
94. I speak of several thousand years.”Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte 173
“111….I have the opportunity to compare these group members to our old people and old men, with whom such incidents are inconceivable.
112. Even our oldest people yield much more initiative and true employment in all concerns and in manual labor than what is the case with these young and energetic group members.
113. The least of all those of our old men still accomplish at least twice as much as these young and strong group members, who feel ill and miserable if they are touched by a gentle gust of wind and stay away from any work and commitment, so that they can secretly rejoice eodem tempore (= in the same instant) about the fact that they can keep themselves away from every work and commitment by a trick.”Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte 184
“41. In terms of age, I am somewhat younger because since my birth, 314 years have passed.
43. In this regard, the average age with us is set a little lower, namely at 987 years.
54. In another form, the mistaken notion also inexplicably prevails with many that as a result of their age, because they are already 25 or 32 years old or even older, they would be free from wrong decisions and false actions and that their actions would correspond to that of an adult person, etc., but this truly only corresponds to misconceptions.
55. Although the average age of the Earth person is about
52 years, and the European person can presently reckon the highest level of a 78-year average, unfortunately, this won’t mean for a long time that a person at this age would be mature and knowledgeable.
56. Through all sorts of injustice, mismanagement, and improper lifestyles, the average age of the Earth person fell to minimal values, whereby he lost around nine hundred years of life, to which he was subjected at very early times, after he was overcome by great periods of rapid evolutionary processes.
57. Through this, the Earth person ages completely physically in much less than a century, by what means he moves from life to death while still in the child’s developmental stage.
58. Human life – in our and, thus, also in the earthly sense, for the Earth people found a physical union with our ancestors – has an average age between 964 and 1,089 years, whereby other alien races and our human life forms exhibit much lower or much higher life expectancies.
59. But in our and in the Earth people’s case, an average age of around a thousand years must be noted because all our races stand in physical and old-customary solidarity, equipped with the corresponding genetic make-up of the corresponding high life expectancy.
60. If the Earth person, through old-conventional maltreatment and wrong lifestyles as well as criminal genetic manipulations, etc., already dies at the age of 70 or 80 years and has gone to ruin to the aging process during this time, then this entirely corresponds to a misdirected life process, which was maliciously established by foreign compulsion and even by the people of this world themselves over long periods of time, by what means the Earth person exchanges life for death while still in his childhood.”Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte 122
“43. On the other hand, in our overall form of leadership of the peoples, politics is foreign to us, so we will also never get involved on the Earth and with the earthly governments in such a form and connection.
44. Politics are only operated by human life forms who are still very foreign to the truth and who look at, consider, and handle all things in childish aspects.
45. We, however, have long been beyond such forms and will never get involved in them any more, neither in one form nor another.”Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte 182
“155. Only with us, there was a time when the way of life and the future was decided by the entire people and by our former leaders, such that from the moment of the decision, every life form actually strove, consciously and to the utmost, to follow and keep the given guidelines, ordinances, and regulations, etc., even though there were still many at that time who were of the same mistaken view as the group members of today.
156. Thus, it happened that fewer than 620 people had to be called to account for wrongdoing and had to be put out, even though our population comprised more than 238 million at that time.
157. If we wanted to implement this with the Earth people, then in any case, it could and would have to be that within a fraction of a second after a decision, an offense never occurs again.”Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte 156
“111. For descendants, we, in cooperation with the High Council, would determine the spirit forms that would be of correctness for the mission and the mothers concerned, etc.
112. Without exception, however, the spirit forms would be those who are of Lyran origin and who remained here on the Earth after the deaths of their former bodies.
113. Therefore, the only descendants who would be born would be those who are inspirited with original Lyran spirit forms.
114. Everything would have to be managed by the Arahat Athersata level.”Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte 214
“181. This can be reconciled because we interfere in no affairs at all; rather, we only send out impulses to certain scientists, who can encounter solutions with these and work on them, without them even having the slightest notion of the fact that they have received impulses from us.
182. So they will be of the opinion that the impulses come from themselves, and they will ascribe all insights and successes to themselves.
183. It must be said in this connection that we offer no solutions through these impulses; rather, we only transmit impulses, through which suggestions for ideas result in certain directions and so on.”Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte 31
“19. The camera is a product of your technology, and it was acquired by one of us.
21. Sure, but we also have clothes of your type.
22. We need these because we move amongst you here and there, shielded from vibrations naturally, so that we won’t be harmed by the vibrations of the Earth people.
23. However, we can only do this for a short period each time.”Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte 124
76. We have to do so because we, despite everything, are not sufficiently familiar with your earthly conditions, so that we could make such decisions alone and by ourselves.
77. The fact that we grasp these things and concerns far too little and are not sufficiently familiar with these, this has proven itself to us throughout the entire time of the last years since you and I took up contact.
78. Clearly and unquestionably, we have now recognized that without your authoritative leading of the whole thing, that which was created with very tough fights would have never been achieved.
79. During the last days, we had to teach ourselves about the fact that we grasp and grasped the earthly concerns far too little and that you have truly always acted correctly.Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte 248
“Billy
can one of you suddenly suffer from a headache, which seems like a migraine?
221. That can happen through the inhaling of an atmosphere that is very well breathable for us but which contains weak components of toxic gas that attack certain parts of our nervous systems, as this was the case with my daughter Semjase”
…
Billy
…one of your main directives determines that you may never interfere in the spiritual development, respectively consciousness-related development, and, thus, also not in the cultural development of any human race, people, or humanity of any world, if these are not already capable of the right astronautics. But what happens, then, if you are asked for an intervention?
176. Even then, the same principle applies.
177. That’s not entirely true because the directive addressed by you doesn’t just apply when there is a lack of spaceflight technology but also when cultural developments are still at levels that are in great need of development.
178. Included in this is also the necessary knowledge about the actual existence of human life throughout the Universe.
179. Also ingrained in the same directive is that we may not interfere in cultural scuffles if the cultural development isn’t highly developed enough and isn’t in accordance with the standards, as these are prescribed in our guidelines.
Billy
When or where, then, are you entitled to interfere?
180. Only where the demands of our directive are met with respect to spaceflight-related and cultural development and when there are no scuffles of any kind.
185. When it concerns assistance that is provided to peoples, races, and civilizations, as well as to planets that are directly connected to the alliance of our Federation.
186. The duties, laws, and rights are uniform throughout the entire Federation.
187. This is one of the basic prerequisites to join our Federation.
188. The Federation is very broad and extends to a distance of 6.2 billion light years, where in connection with our Federation, another member federation exists according to our model.
189. In between, between the two federations, which have a sphere of influence of many millions of light years, there are isolated systems that also belong to our federations.
194. Indeed, there are still other civilizations that have the same or similar directives as we have, but there are also many that know no inhibitions in this respect but rather interfere without hesitation in other cultures and wage wars, etc.
195. In relation to this, there are quite furious space-traveling peoples.
197. Certainly, because the political affairs on Earth belong to our areas of observation.
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200. What’s going on with this European Union, however, has nothing to do with Henok’s system, for instead of creating unity and stabilization as well as assimilation and revision of existing laws and regulations, there are impossible, inexpedient, liberty-restricting, and stupid new laws and regulations arising from incompetent politicians, who establish themselves in and through Brussels as rulers of the European Union and who characterize themselves more and more as despotic and dictatorial, from which, in the end, a total control of the individual can result, which is already secretly striven for by certain elements.
201. The secret idea is that the powerful figures can consolidate themselves in Brussels and become so dominant that all of Europe and, one day, also the rest of the world will fall under their dictatorial control, which is vehemently denied, of course.
202. But in truth, secret ideas and plans relating to this already exist among certain elements, in order to create a totalitarian dictatorship under the exclusive control of the rulers in Brussels.
203. Thus, whoever joins the European Union goes into the lion’s mouth, as a terrestrial proverb says.
204. And if the people and national governments blindly continue to trust the words and machinations of Brussels and don’t draw the right conclusions from it, then the dark and terrible truth of an impending dictatorship will prove itself to be true.”October 30, 2017 at 5:10 PM #8862Darius Al Jerhimardi
GuestThe truth is that critics and sceptics are not aware of the reality around them, fine. If they are prepared to, like an adult and grown-up, look at the reality and real situation then we can have a conversation about Billy Meier’s contacts, if not the the conversation will be how poor and fake it is with no basis in reality, its simple one way or another, the individual is either aware of reality or they are not, if the critic is too heavily naive then ofcourse they will go grab the weakest conspiracies of all. If they are strong and capable critics then they will criticise the full parameters of reality.
October 31, 2017 at 5:17 PM #8863Darius Al Jerhimardi
GuestEd says: “what you posted regarding impulses is that it is used to downgrade other people who claim to have contact experiences.”
If there was no strange phenomena they could not understand mentioned in their report, typically that’s impulses, its all that area of physics its never been anything other area than that area of physics, there is only one designated area of physics for that. Then usually it just didn’t happen. If the extraterrestrial did not know about the Earth persons fast-ageing then that extraterrestrial doesn’t really know anything then, they don’t even know basic facts about their own homeworld if they don’t know about Earths specific affliction. Then the question of what exactly they were doing with an Earth person comes into question.
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