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September 9, 2017 at 2:23 PM in reply to: SPHERE REFLECTIONS: Can they help determine the size of a UFO? #8638Daniel LeechParticipant
Capitalising words doesn’t make them any more pertinent, it may even decrease the words relevance within the sentence.
Daniel LeechParticipantSo I think anyone in FIGU or interested in FIGU needs to be working together to build up the production values of a media project more and more until its at the same production level standard of an actually commercially viable film. Because I think with such high claims that FIGU is making requires a very high tier media package which tells it properly, approaching the standards of a multi-million dollar film, and this is only possible as I said if they/we work together and over a long time. To me this should have been a feature of the FIGU community but it’s never been, its always been handed over to semi-pro’s that with respect have done a great job considering.
Daniel LeechParticipantWM.
What if; there were humans from another world visiting the SSSC monthly and it was that the individuals there were not particularly media directors or media managers and the fact it was occurring before their eyes they just sort of assumed the world was being informed about it properly because of individuals such as MH. MH btw was just a coast to coast type presentation specialist with Randolph Winters in the early days, we’ve never been dealing with professional presentation specialists like say David Attenborough, lets just use this silly example, but its true, we don’t have these individuals interested because the claims have not been backed up by overwhelming evidence. I appreciate Michael and others fight strongly for, but we don’t have the support of the English-speaking worlds intellectuals because they’ve needed help with the wording and formatting of the information, but mostly because the interviews have been few and far between and the evidence has not been put into a robust media presentation which is saleable to the broadcast market. FIGU say this is because they don’t have the time to which is fair enough, but I am not confident they even want this or have ever wanted it. Ptaah once explained that they wanted to keep the community very small, and this makes quite a lot of sense really because they are the ones in control of the quantity of evidence available.
I’ve always argued and tried to understand then if this was all the case, then what was the goal and point. Apparently this is how FIGU has always been in every time epoch, in Jmmanuel’s time it relied on donations in the same way. Why not get the community working on a youtube channel designed specifically to target the million+ audience, and then deliver everything they wanted to give it to the world that way. Apparently in all other times they’ve never had the electronic means of communication available, and besides its all against their legislation to interfere with any communications project.
There is another thing that MH followed by FIGU in order of harshness have moderated individuals who announce the truth openly on their forums, even though what they have announced has been the truth, just what it is, and they basically just assassinate the characters of individuals they don’t want to hear from, yet shirk their responsibility to take on that task, they define the narrative. So individuals have resorted to making anonymous names and those that have stuck around longest now struggle to assess friend from foe. The community has outgrown itself very many times and especially on facebook that is clear, so a big scale media production by a professional organisation is now viable, but FIGU don’t want it or else they would have reached out to do it properly and taken the advice of individuals who know how to deal with it properly but haven’t.
So all in all I think for me its easy to see why so many individuals see this as an all out hoax. I think its a shame they’re not making a really great one-time package of evidence which ticks all the boxes and makes it undeniable. Most folk don’t want to hear this told by an individual but they want it presented as a public documentary which is reliable.
Daniel LeechParticipantHello WM,
Michael Horn breaks all the FIGU rules by behaving the way he does and this has been an open secret for a very long time. The only way to get into it is to review the available content first hand and from the absolute source. But we have then another problem when we do that because they are not great showmen at FIGU and it even looks like they don’t want the world to know about it. FIGU have never really been aware of what Michael does behind the scenes in their name, but don’t investigate it because they just want the responsibility to go away. They’ve never been interested in making a normal amount of money out of it either which is why it’s not a great presentation and they’ve never had the time to tackle the normal aspects properly, like the time travel aspect which usually turns individuals off immediately.
Daniel LeechParticipantThe farsight institute on youtube does a monthly remote viewing series of sessions for the following month based on a select range of news organisations output, they remote view news organisations output only basically. So its history not histories, important distinction to make. What occurs to me is that in the whole world a lot of shit occurs everyday, sometimes several disasters happen and the best of the 3 is selected for the history collection, even though the second disaster had a big weather system and killed more but didn’t make a good news story and the other disaster on that day was in a remote region no one has heard of before in a hollywood movie so doesn’t make good news for their organisation.
So with Billy Meier’s prophecies and predictions and to my point, I don’t know why Billy cannot call out exact specifics of events, with the technologies they have, that way we can be absolutely sure, because he would select say a well reported news story which had the most cameras present. Well he did do that for the San Andreas quake and tsunami, but he didnt allow the original photo to be copied, I think that is a shame because that would have completed the exercise.
I often get the sense that they don’t really want or even care, the information to be disseminated throughout the world, and this is why they sometime take out the potent little parts which make them make sense, such as deleting the detail which is important from the contact report or ripping up the photo which proves they were in the future or something like this.
Daniel LeechParticipantProblem with future things is that usually they just have the shotgun, broad brush type ‘war’ ‘asteroid’ ‘solar flare’ big things that are bound to happen at some time or another anyway, even a military gentlemen could forecast. So Edgar Cayce is interesting, because he is not moderating the output like Billy is, though that moderation is interesting even if he is revealing information after the events as you identify Mahigitam, because it then indicates that Billy is knowing something else about how individuals react to what is already impending for them. The problem with Edgar Cayce is that they have simply outright refused to publish the entire confection in a sensible wiki website, they have only given the choice pickings to those that have hunted through a personal collection which is not on the internet, and those individuals have then authored their cruddy books about their interpretations. So someone could maybe speak to the family who have the material in their loft or basement and sit with them for several months, maybe a kind retired man, and digitise the whole lot of it by simply typing letter for letter, so we can then finally read what Edgar Cayce read from the storage banks and make our own assessments and present it like the futureofmankind website is presented.
Daniel LeechParticipantRegarding plagiarism, the other alternative is that they’re simply referencing the same future. That is fair enough to me, there is only one and its reasonably linear.
Daniel LeechParticipantHello Mahigitam,
I don’t know where to request this on the forum. I’d like to see a long article written by you about the racial content. You’ve been ok with writing about the sexual content and a bunch of controversial things. I think the racial content is quite important to put into one complete page, because the entire case is about aliens more than anything else, quite important aspect. With the homophobic article you made, scientists have to say things about gay people from time to time that is normal and necessary, Billy said its a “natural occurrence in conflict with nature” which some find offensive, but why a vagina why a penis and all the hormones etc if not doing it that way was in conflict with nature, there would be a dual penis vagina thing going on if it was not in conflict with nature. That is fair enough to me.
With the racial content I think its important to just be clear about what has been written pro and con as you do well, if its not politically correct then definitely include that information and if its controversial then I definitely want to read about it, because my approach is that if its controversial and cause a fuss then its probably true. So why do the Plejaren have a difficulty communicating with us in short range and for any length of time, they are originating from the same ur-race so what has changed, and what has been said about those subjects.
Daniel LeechParticipantHello all,
Wayne Eligur, Hello, you write some interesting things I didn’t know about that, I just want to tell of my experience of the same things. Some points below to make reading easy.
1. Regarding Eva Bieri, Mahigitam said it above, I said hello to her July 2017 in person there. Things change all the time with everyone in any organisation anywhere.
2. Regarding Money/economy. The Swiss economy, difficult to understand how its not undermined by normal businessmen offering opportune deals and in the middle of Europe, I agree. Everyone gets paid much more so everything can then cost more, but doesn’t have to, its just good business. I didnt know about that 75K USD, but now I know, to me that represents a reasonably cheap, equitable, efficient running of everything they do with little wastages, it symbolises they;re not being unreasonable, and the reason I can say that is because comparatively consumer Prices in Switzerland are generally (not time specific) 82.87% higher than in United Kingdom and 79.60% higher than in United States with groceries prices 133.05% higher than United Kingdom and 80.63% than United States. So a simple chocolate bar made of same sourced ingredients in the UK or US is say $£1 in Switzerland its $£2-3.
3. Atlantic flights have apparently fallen 50% in 3 decades. It depends on the airline, which airport one flies into and at what time including the specific date. Using google we can pick and compare the time, date, airline, airport and compare the interconnecting transport costs and weigh it all up. £400 is my all-in upper limit when traversing the Atlantic, just saying, but only because I know how to go around the entire world for that kind of money.
4. Many would attempt to sue their son too, IF they were men and if they had that kind of independence type relationship with each other, and if in that case they needed to be taught a lesson about law and insurance for their own good because everything was getting too lovey and comfortable between them, fair enough to me.
5. Autism is what it is as you say as we know.
6. I think Billy had help from the Plejaren with the initial buy in 1975. Thats for Mahigitam to investigate.
7. They don’t speak english natively, never have, never will, the way they explain things is sometimes different and how it translates is sometimes different and how they/him/her/whoever talks is differentey everytime.
8. About the coldness, paranoid behaviours, unsure, lack of hospitality, smileyness etc, I put a lot of that down to the negativity on the internet and in any reports about it all shared around which feedback itself and which has progressively grinded down the community, along with the identity anonymity, hostility, backstabbing, theft, unpleasant, distasteful, dishonourable exchanges etc. That happens in any community, its no different here. What has made it worse is that the information is abnormal, about weird subjects, niche industry, tiny community, fringe matters etc and the baggage brought over from the overlapping communities, the UFO community, the religion community, the ghost ghoul spacey weirdy wild community the whatever sloshy sciencey language community. Then on top of all that you have all the nations of the world coming together in a big sluice of weird wild randomness. So I think in all the SSSC is incredibly normal and relaxed under the circumstances.
9. I credit dyson as my introduction to the content, having translated it, and for being Australian (I am English), the was Australians do things, no secret, often sits better with a certain breed of the English, I make no concealment about. North America typically does things differently, and that is ok, look we are all different, and that is what is making the world interesting. The USA individuals do tend to create community better I tend to agree with that. The Swiss don’t do things the same as its done in North America, I find that all fair enough.10. For me a lot of the stuff is often done very poorly, like for example with Methi and this crummy exopolitics video to me, its often amateur and all very poor quality, that is just my opinion, my opinion is that they ought to start taking more a pride over what they are doing and doing it properly and take a better amount of time over it all. They probably need a media manager type individual to fight the battle of bumping up the quality, refilming things, recuting that edit, redoing until its right etc etc. But that is not how FIGU do things, the info itself takes the centre stage, they don’t care so much about the presentational qualities like the English speaking world does, and they do it all differently as I said. Plus I don’t know why this has turned into a media circus anyway. I suppose Billy could have been doing very good interviews in the garden every month in as many languages as he could to cool down the attention he was getting etc, but its a non-profit organisation we don’t have a million dollar budget to get the right individuals in to get it all right etc. Its also not a hotel, though that would have also been a prime idea to build a big hotel on the land so that the world could have come to visit him and they could have profited of many many different aspects, they never did.
Thanks I enjoyed reading the comments made on the forums.
Bye.
August 23, 2017 at 9:32 AM in reply to: SPHERE REFLECTIONS: Can they help determine the size of a UFO? #8565Daniel Leech, I will not entertain your mind games here. Again, this thread is about the science of sphere reflections. Do you have anything RELEVANT to add to this discussion?
August 22, 2017 at 6:49 PM in reply to: SPHERE REFLECTIONS: Can they help determine the size of a UFO? #8564Daniel LeechParticipantYou are a liar, poor in consciousness or your English language skills are poor, and/or. I never claimed to be a member of FIGU or of WUFORN. What happened was you read a little tiny part of what I was explaining to you, commented back to make it look as if you had taken the time to entertain what I was explaining and that I had your ear, then moved very quickly onto another subject not reading the follow up comment I used to clarify and then later as you are here offering this American style profile setup you have of me, never have met me, know not a damn thing about me, just like you treat every other individual you come across.
Yes I do have something to say about veritable spheres of influence. Stop trying to prove that photos that Billy Meier and FIGU have distanced themselves from, because they were faked by a third party and instead focus on whether or not FIGU has any compassion for these individuals, [you], having allowed them to carry on debating crummy images for years. Focus on whether the FIGU or Plejaren care even one iota for your health and sanity by allowing you to continue trying to authenticate the poor images, while they have a shed load of them they cant even muster up the enthusiasm to release and can produce new ones of them on demand if they really wanted to by just asking the Plejaren. Instead what is happening here is they don’t want you to keep argueing the toss from one year to the next, they want you to calm yourself down. They want you Taro to politely approach them and ask whether, look, “do you have another problem for me to solve please”, “I am amply capable I need not use another year to demonstrate it”, etc, and move yourself onto some other science, some more important science that actually matters, and then you may relatch yourself again back into this habitual loop again, once you’ve repositioned yourself onto an actually valuable scientific problem that needs solving.
August 14, 2017 at 5:53 AM in reply to: SPHERE REFLECTIONS: Can they help determine the size of a UFO? #8560Daniel, you like to play mind games. You tried to convince me you were a member of FIGU as well as WUFORN. Your facetious comments will not fool me. This is a thread about science. I’m here to discuss how science can be used for UFO analysis. Now, do you have anything to say about reflective spheres?
August 13, 2017 at 3:37 PM in reply to: SPHERE REFLECTIONS: Can they help determine the size of a UFO? #8559Daniel LeechParticipantWait. What. What the hell did you just say to me Taro -August 11, 2017 at 9:00 AM. Was that in response to me? “Amusing. I take it you don’t believe in science either.”
You my boy… oh my word, assuming that was addressed to me, are a monkey. You really ought to take the time to recognise a compliment when you read one and take the time to actually read what individuals have to say to you. I think maybe all the individuals on this website who have ripped into you have been correct and justified in light of your amusement at me. Its the last time I ever give you my time for you to piss away ever again. Stupid boy, what do you actually know my little man, really, what have you actually figured out you numb skull. Do not respond to this message you waste of breath.
August 11, 2017 at 9:00 AM in reply to: SPHERE REFLECTIONS: Can they help determine the size of a UFO? #8558Amusing. I take it you don’t believe in science either.
August 8, 2017 at 12:39 AM in reply to: SPHERE REFLECTIONS: Can they help determine the size of a UFO? #8557Daniel LeechParticipantHello, Taro, I think the FIGU would like to talk with you personally, assuming you have not yet approached them, due to you having taken A-Level Physics, what you have demonstrated you are able to do with equations and numbers, the bravery is ofcourse another skill. I think there are some more science related problems they need to figure out and need individuals like you if you can tear yourself away from the fun of defending the situation for even a single moment, there is probably going to be something to say and discover between you.
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