Michael Horns behavioural mentality and sensibilities

[Simon Lehman]

Hello,
I have tested Michael many times to be confident that my assessments were correct, but I could be wrong.

I think that Michael has not read all of the information from Billy Meier and insults and deletes comments on his blog which are true and destroys the sincerity in their character with his crummy little arguments that occasionally have no basis in reality, he I think hallucinates that individuals are against him from time to time. If he had read all of the information he would not delete so many comments and his blog would cover many more subjects and areas of interest, so I claim he doesn’t know as much as what he claims to know and a lot of it is just him argueing without reasoning. There is a lot of information that Billy Meier has revealed that because of Michaels behaviour will never see the light of day and yet if presented correctly need not have a MH arguing all the time, a strange layup.

The main reasons I make the claim is because he is their media representative and apparently has all the rights of an entire national FIGU group. Check for yourself, find some rare information that he’s not covered despite being in the business for decades in a contact report or book and word it as a comment on his blog. He’ll ask for your first and last name because that’s the most important thing to him, then he’ll ask you to substantiate the claim and then he’ll insult you for taking the time to give a link and then the FIGU will create a new revision of the text which tantamount says the same thing but is worded slightly differently but is the same thing, a golden apple is still an orange type basic petty stuff, well worth arguing about. The fact I think is that many of the more normal subjects Michael has not looked into while he has explored many of the weaker more pathetic subjects which allows him to gain so many visitors, the visitors he has are not getting the basic components of what Billy Meier and the whole thing is about. The main problem with the American audience is they are some of the most poorest in the world in terms of hallucinations and reasoning into delusion, so we’ll never get anything of value from Michael.

It’s also my opinion that the method that the FIGU forums are moderated are hideously stupid and Billy himself refraining from answering questions on the forums, what on Earth are these people doing together, the new rules and FIGU directives oh my word what an embarrassment, and their passive weak pathetic way of approaching anything and not doing anything about anything just writing stuff, it’s all way out of hand to me, there are some very dangerous features of the whole thing, they refuse to do normal things like present everything normally in a normal video, they leave it to others like Michael Horn, proving how poor their judgement abilities are to represent them and then they wonder why there is all the slander and ignorance and people get the wrong idea. Very strange people, all of them, they’ve even set it up as a non profit organisation so they really desperately want it not to be a success and want the entire world to consign them to the fringe book section and scare away all the capitalists, as if they know nothing about the word economy and receive charitable contributions.

Anyone normal, just forget all this stuff now and look at Elon Musk and what he is doing with SpaceX, just forget about all these strange wannabes now until they have understood the nature of reality and appreciated that what they are doing is not normal, which so few of them know about they’re all that delusional. When they wake up then the world will take notice of them.

[Valerie Tottencourt]

Hi Simon,
Your scathing report isn’t entirely true however you have said some true things. I hope you didn’t say that to them because that would of course have caused them to block you out because that’s what they do.

I personally think the P’s want us to know how bad ‘they’ think our judges are, which, ‘usually generally closely allied to religion’ and close to government. Only thing is we were just looking for interesting things in our spare time and have no influence in what hundreds of millions of people have grown into doing habitually. Your point therefore about presenting it all normally in a language that people can understand is quite fair, I think what you said that they have relied on others to do that for them is odd now you come to mention it. But they control people through the powers of the Arahat Athersata and Petale ‘apparently’, (same as God) so have the economy and the slander of religion is therefore unjustified if that’s what you mean.

They have lots of books which are complicated but have not even got the basic explanation in place yet, is that what you mean. They’ve explained it in quite an odd way. They say the ‘Giza Intelligences’ influenced the cultures which were facing toward progressive routes, and this left the other nations behind, then the ‘Giza Intelligences’ were removed, then the other nations left behind migrated in, the population of the world swelled, and the progressive routes nations having developed intellectually cultivated a politically correct attitude which allowed the other nationals to occupy key positions in their economies which destabilised the progressive routes nations in ways which were not recognised at first, and eventually in a few hundred years the most advanced people of Earth will be dependent on the least evolved, basically because they’ll be in a small minority and won’t be listened to. Its a little xenophobic but maybe it has some minor merits as a story. But they don’t say it as simply as this, the story’s in the contact reports have always been too big for the loyal ones to come and make them simple enough to make sense.

I see what you say about profit too, because Michael Horn has obviously been living off the profits of Billy Meier texts for several decades so the FIGU could have made a viable economy for them to employ individuals to be more successful in the presentation of the information. They wrote once that crazies and insane people never die out, this say’s to me that they’ve relied on others to present their own story to their own audience.

They call everyone psychopaths and have difficulty assessing friend from foe where normal small to medium enterprises don’t have these silly problems and they call it democracy building, which is true, but there’s little economically to retain the best, so the system is reliant on the remaining wannabes. They have run some things in an odd way if that is what you mean.

Valerie.

[Michael Horn]

Criticism is most beneficial when it’s…accurate. For instance:

People can, and frequently do, post opposing opinions, etc.

I haven’t ”revealed” things that either I don’t know, haven’t gotten around to, etc.

As far as having “all the rights of an entire national FIGU group”, this DOENS’t exclude anyone from doing their own work, going opinions, presentations, writing articles, blogs, etc. (as is already actually the case). I simply have certain rights based on my performance which, again, DON’T prevent anyone else from stepping up and making their contribution.

I require people’s names and verifiable ID on my blog because there are spammers, trolls and other idiots who try to post under false identities, since they’re too cowardly to state their opinions using their real ones. In fact, I’ll have to double check, but I’m unaware of any “Simon Lehman” commenting, or submitting comments, to the blog. So this griper is making the point for me.

I DO require people to substantiate things that they attribute to Meier. One recent offender is one “Daniel Leech”…could he and Simon be the same person? Who knows?

I have NO idea what is meant by “the weaker more pathetic subjects”.

As for “Michael Horn has obviously been living off the profits of Billy Meier texts for several decades”, which is apparently some kind of…complaint about that fact that I do ALL of my work voluntarily, produce my films, blogs, do interviews, all travel, etc., at my own expense. I am extremely thankful when people want to get not just the tons of free info from Meier, my own work, etc., but actually want to buy the books, DVDs,CDs, etc.

What I do is called being self-responsible, self-supporting, etc., and I’m at a loss to understand these criticisms.

Okay, maybe you don’t like my opinions, bedside manner, movie star looks, etc., but please at least make SENSIBLE complaints and criticisms. I certainly wouldn’t want to be under the illusion that I’m beyond reproach.

[Ed V.]

Michael, I think it’s fair to say you can’t handle any criticism. People have questioned you in the past and it doesn’t take long before you snap and start hurling insults. Many people have called you out on your behavior which is highly similar to a religious fanatic whose faith is questioned. Can you contemplate how other people view you?

Lets not mince words. You believe every aspect of the Meier case. You have a financial interest in promoting the Meier case. You spend literally decades of your life promoting and defending Meier that you can’t even contemplate and fathom what’s wrong with it! Your ego is seemingly too deep in the quagmire that is the Meier case. That’s what is wrong with you!

[Simon Lehman]

Hello Michael,

What on Earth are you talking about “One recent offender is one “Daniel Leech”…could he and Simon be the same person? Who knows?” What about Valerie and Ed above are they also me and what about Mahesh who is site admin here, is he also me? That is because I have never commented on your blog, is that too much to understand.

People on the facebook groups want normal calm simple presentation of the Earth and the reality, they don’t want to follow your blog until you reach the subject they want to read. You delete so many comments on your blog you are saying you don’t care for anyone elses view and that yours is exclusive.

Your a FIGU landesgruppe Michael. My critism of you doesnt matter whether I am right or wrong, I am not representing the situation like you are, you are representing them, they have elected you and decided to arrange the rules so that you are the one who always makes sense, no me, so I just hope that you are right every time, because I don’t have to be.

[Simon Lehman]

Have some respect for knowledgeable people Michael, because you are far from the most knowledgeable individual in the community, never have been and will never be, so get used to that fact and have some dignity for yourself in not trying to compete but instead reinforce the very best most knowledgeable individuals instead of insulting them and deleting their comments and saying their representing the facts incorrectly and instead take the time to investigate the source content which you should be familiar with and identify what they have, which makes them more knowledgeable obviously, instead, so that you don’t have only stupid people commenting on your blog, but also knowledgeable people too. So what if they are far in advance of you in their knowledge, you need to begin thanking them, because this is your business not theirs, they are supporting you, so have some respect for knowledgeable people Michael.

[Eleanor R.]

Michael is a former bodleian, don’t say that Simon you could hurt his feelings. Thank you for steelmark theyfly and the work did in support of randy winters leading to his tapes, the best prophecies.

[Sheila Clarke]

What are you spewing Simon? He has done more than you have compared with you. He could have a medal by now for what he has done. You are stupid you never checked and why is this about you its about me, look at yourself after you have looked at me. When world war three starts Russia and the commies and shill stars and shuck studs and hill Billy’s are going to pound a pound of whopping cheese whopper on morse Korea in the north and there’s nothing Michael can do about that in the next decade. Stop spewing all your nonsense, get real.

[Simon Lehman]

Be quiet if you have nothing to say.

The mission is Michael with a semi amateur word press website and obscure radio interviews on stations no one has ever heard of. He makes entertainment out of ideas about business and doing things in a business way, he in reality is nothing more than taking information from a non profit organisation repackaging it and giving it to a different audience in another nation while humiliating, scrutinising and laughing at them. The reality I think, is that Michael is a babysitter of hallucinators who hallucinates and only part reads people’s comments on his blog and comments on most of them revealing the fact, he edits people’s comments, deletes the best comments and posts comments that are stupid making him look better and more justified, and all because he’s allowed himself to be deluded into thinking he’s on a mission for extraterrestrials. Had FIGU just gone about everything in a business like manner from the get go instead of procrastinating about spiritualism and being so lazy, they could have hired professional speakers, professional translators etc, but instead they have chosen to feel sorry for themselves as if they are hard done by and no one cares about them except those from Michael Horns obscure talk radio shows no one has ever heard of and he’ll give me some trash about this comment, but the fact of the matter still remains.

Thousands of individuals have come along in the last few decades offering good business advice to them and they’re no only done nothing with that advice they’re ridiculed them for saying it, were they able to hire and fire then they wouldn’t have that problem. At present it’s all a show, there is no Billy Farm, there is no community because they never share information with each other, it’s Chinese whispers, and the fee to join is a sham with no real jobs to do at billys ranch so passive members just turn up and bugger off once a year no one hears about it, no one cares, and Michael horn slanders anyone who is normally enquiring into wtf is going on. It’s because he’s not paid by them and would have been fired long ago had he been. If they just made these simple facts clear instead of being silly and paranoid frantic about everything. They rely on scaring people and making them feel anxious and their hospitality is an absolute joke, the real joke which proves Michael hallucinates.

[Jacobs Trouble]

Hi Simon, I don’t meant to hijack the topic and change the subject however you said something interesting. If we read the new old new bible that Eduard found during his wandering archaeological days and compare it to Christianity, we see they have decided about delivering the information in a “business way” as you say. Back then they had scribes like Michael doing guest presentation lectures in the desert, not mojave it was judaean back then. Then later in history some guys taking what Michael I mean Jmanuel said and not in California in Italy and then later forming the Vatican. It makes me wonder what Christianity would look like today if in Jesus Christs and Muhammads time they decided to professional handle the extraterrestrial information instead of leaving it to individuals like Michael to deal with it, I find this scenario interesting however negligent. Theres mention of something like UFOs or least some technology in the bible and Quran so it would be interesting if they decided to hire some professional guest lecturers and translators as you said Simon some day so we don’t butcher what has been written again.

[Ed V.]

Jacob, do you realize that Meier’s discovery of the Talmud Jmmanuel is completely unsubstantiated? There’s zero proof! The highest probability here is that Meier simply took the Bible, started rewriting it while simultaneously inserting his own religous concepts.
And what does Michael Horn do? He sells these Meier bibles for $55 a pop while there’s no scientific basis for its existence whatsoever! This puts him in the same category as Billy Meier, a disengenious fraud!

[Jacobs Trouble]

Hi Ed, I thought they had a few photos of the stone tablets and a police report detailing the remains when they were criminally damaged? There’s a story somewhere about a man translating them while on the run or something and was caught or something.

Its true they are sold per pop, however we can download digital copies for free so that nullifies some of the profitability assertions, and Michael H. probably supplies a free download link, and if he doesn’t then I suppose that then says something considering he didn’t translate it, it was translated by volunteers, and ‘translated by volunteers’ sort of nullifies several aspects of that line of reasoning. The problem is that the scenarios are not written clearly and punctuated enough with evidence as you say, people like to buy them to feel like they are part of a community which continues to study etc and to have a hard copy even though they know they can have a digital copy and probably have had already.

Its true it mirrors the book of Matthew reasonably closely. It is meant to though with the story that it slowly over a thousand years became rewritten a few times, and the story of the Giza Intelligences and Bafath is part of why it was rewritten apparently so part of the story so the extraterrestrials could make people think God somehow manifested in real life and they were going to use holograms to pull it off woolover in the early 2000’s apparently.

They would have benefited from a more professional presentation like Simon said instead of these silly amateur iterations and FIGU could have used video over the last three decades to carefully present the information exactly the way it is, or way they want it to be presented, they’ve had the time to work at doing that. They say its because they have been too busy with their day jobs, and Billy calls it a hallucination medium even though certain documentary styles are able to present the facts closely with a lot of work. They could have still worked on it for an hour each week end over a decade.

[Ed V.]

Jacob, Meier claims that a man called Rashid was with him when he discovered the tomb and subsequently translated the scrolls. Rashid allegedly disappears in a refugee camp with the scrolls being lost or captured by Israelies who attacked the camp. This basically means there’s no physical evidence and the one person who could testify for the genuineness of the Talmud Jmmanuel is conveniently gone. Allegedly there’s a picture of Rashid but of course there’s no corroboration. This simply means we have to take Meier’s word for it which some people seem to do. I don’t. After researching many aspects of the Meier case I think the highest probability here is that none of this story is true. It’s all invented by Meier in order to create a new religion with himself as the spiritual authority.

P.S.
On a sidenote, if the discovery of the TJ is true do you realize that Meier is guilty of graverobbery? Another item on Meier’s criminal record. You do know that Meier spend years in jail right? After breaking out of a Swiss jail and deserting from the French Foreign Legion he had warrents for his arrest in France and Switzerland. No one should take Meier’s word at face value!

[Jacobs Trouble]

I am maybe one of those… that believes, let me explain something, I like to indicate I believe something so that more details emerge about it, I seem to step more into it that way, somehow crossing the enemy lines undercover or something within their protection. Ok so there is no proof, I always knew there was no proof, I know there is no proof for most of all of it, it’s like the film series lost in many ways, even with all the pieces in the right place it still has several loose ends despite being incredibly well told and beautifully presented. Not that reality has anything to do with reality I am just making an analogy with a popular medium. It’s a big story, so that in itself offers something even many authors don’t offer, and it represents reality occasionally much better than the best journalists, again no proof as you say, he could just be a very good researcher and reader of very tasteful philosophers and specialist authors and rewrites these things. fair fair, and as you say the Plejaren have somewhat endorsed criminality and crapped our justice system by way of endorsement, and why was he in jail, I only have heard about it. My impressions are that occasionally Meier reminds me of a deceptive smart criminal and I hate to admit that, but when I occasionally see the way he deals with certain situations it reminds me of a lack of decency and being disingenuous. However, on the other hand the real universe according to the story and Plejaren is in itself perilous with needs and things we have to do to survive and the laws we have on earth are often frought with shallow assessments from heavily religious judges so they can’t always successfully judge a bankrupt immoral judgement from a simply immoral judgement which is what sounding less bad but still bad. Have to wonder about that prison sentence though, what were the crimes and convictions exactly, ptaah has told him about grooming the beard and I am sure he heard that loud and clear. grave robbing is nothing less than a very low grade theft, much worse than the other types including stealing from the vulnerable, because it demonstrates a lack of decency and honour. However if there were sufficient proof then we could easily argue that he was right to go in there if the Plejaren indicated there was something to find there, wouldnt have been recovered if not. He doesn’t see it that way. There are many many instances we don’t get from Michael Horns partial narratives, and his ceaseless deleting of comments and telling people they are wrong instead of just telling them how it is, like you did in your comment above, you just summarised quickly the rashid thing, how long did that take you, not long, why isn’t michael able to do that, he behaves like its a special conspiracy, oh no no don’t talk about this or that, and then we waste lots of time and eventually they say the same damn thing. Yes it is tantamount to the second coming of Jesus Christ, even of many of the details are slightly removed and different, it’s tantamount, very roughly equal to, but still not enough difference to say we’re talking about something different and outright denying it.

[Jacobs Trouble]

Ed V. All they ask is that individuals who take the position you’ve taken ask very brave questions and examine the texts and compare what is being said with the state of reality at our current time in history, because he and the Plejaren has written it for now. The short life spans written on that other forum post means that your life and relevant information to your life covers a small little slot between say 19xx to 20xx and this is the only relevant segment for you or me, we can investigate the gentlemen with the 17xx to 17xx slot but this will only allow us to dream hallucinate with visions and invented memories, the time we live is our time, it’s what creates our print and fulfills our own personalised lessons and special arrangement of circumstances. it’s partially an experiment and partially just to entertain some of our needs, they know very well that by the end of the millennia those individuals with that time slot will be given a much heavier packet of data with more time and greater wider range of possibilities and opportunities, and they know that most of those with the living time slot of today won’t know anything of Billy Meier and still lead a good life, it’s not a necessary thing or anything like that, they’ve also admitted that Billy is not as strong even any where near as strong and knowledgeable as he was twelve thousand years ago, it’s a great shame he has not revealed more and been so damn shy as if he thinks the whole world cares when it’s only around a hundred thousand and few of them ever communicate with each other making his fame much easier to manage.

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