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April 6, 2018 at 9:23 AM #9295
If not, why not? This theory accounts for both the unexplained aspects of this case as well as any apparent discrepancies. Agree? Disagree?
April 6, 2018 at 9:50 PM #9297Ed V.GuestYou proceed on the premise that aliens are real yet somehow want to present a false ET contact case. What would be a valid motive for such an action?
If you want to use this theory to explain away all the gaping holes in the Meier case than I simply disagree. You’re still trying to champion Meier because you lost all critical thought and believe in every word he uttered.April 6, 2018 at 9:57 PM #9298ReadabeardGuestTaro, possible yes, I suppose agreed. It would be lofty and probably weird if they had done something to that effect, and the motives would be difficult to quantify. However I concede your investigation into the specially designed wedding cake ship; slightly too small for practical application yet slightly too large for a normal hoaxer to bother the effort for, points toward a staging, fake UFO hoax of sorts and would as you say account for the unexplained aspects and apparent discrepancies. It is the way it happened so they say.
There are several strange explanation theories.
1: Not allowed (some homeworld law thing) to be known to the public of this world officially and successfully known.
2: Know theres a gulf between the smart and stupid so great that they could do such a thing, convince someone like you Taro while maintain the secret, as an open-secret say, with a component of their real identity hidden under a flap.
3: Know that it creates dependants if they reveal themselves and all their capabilities off the bat, probably because they have experimented with another civilization at some time before.}
4: Teaches about nature of reality to those that they approach. nature of reality is they are not particularly super, exotic or extravagant and would be vulnerable, as vulnerable as anyone in real life.Maybe.
However, they say they have fein-fine-material technologische, so they can turn your head to any consciousness-awareness as they want it – as those that have died are able to do so in the spiritualism, but with a technologicallische aidment.
April 6, 2018 at 11:57 PM #9299Gourmet GellyGuestexcerpt from Gaiaguys Asket’s explanation Billy touches on different aspects of mission. contains errors.
“It is an obligation to all higher developed creatures, to assist less developed forms in a helpful manner of responsible measure, to influence the evolution in given measure. This duty is an obligation of all creatures of all universes, because it is a Creational Law. <snip> The Earth human has become able to destroy his world in an atomic explosion, which would bring very dangerous consequences for the whole system. <snip> To prevent further madness like this, is exactly the duty of the more advanced races…An atomic destruction of this Earth could destroy your whole sun-system and push (the planets) out into the willy meat cosmos as extremely dangerous missiles. These could again destroy further sun-systems and produce cosmic catastrophe. Even neighboring universes could be affected. Besides this, the sun-system moves in space in such a way that the catastrophe could spread to other systems in a form of chain reaction in your cosmos. A similar event is already known. A loss of Earth could distort the structure of space and time and produce great damage. So it is our objective to prevent this eventuality, and together with many other creatures of other worlds of this universe to control the Earth and attempt to contain the already conjured mischief by Earth scientists, and head this off. That is our mission. <snip>”
April 7, 2018 at 3:42 AM #9303William VerhulstGuestOh there’s an idea Readabeard, maybe. Maybe! They are time wasters? Maybe! They are aliens who can’t find intelligent life in the universe and are stuck with us wannabeans of urde
April 7, 2018 at 6:20 AM #9305“You proceed on the premise that aliens are real yet somehow want to present a false ET contact case.”
It’s a simple question, Ed. If you do not believe extraterrestrials exist, then your answer would be, “no” followed by, “because I don’t believe in aliens”.
“What would be a valid motive for such an action?”
To offer guidance to a planetary society that badly needs it without forcing them to accept open contact before they are collectively ready.
“If you want to use this theory to explain away all the gaping holes in the Meier case than I simply disagree.”
Example?
“You’re still trying to champion Meier because you lost all critical thought and believe in every word he uttered.”
How did I “champion” Meier when I never even mentioned him? Explain to me how I’ve lost critical thinking. Why are you so sure that you have any yourself? And why do you think you know what I believe about what Meier says or writes? Have I ever talked about it? You make WAY too many assumptions, Ed.
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April 7, 2018 at 6:24 AM #9307“However, they say they have fein-fine-material technologische, so they can turn your head to any consciousness-awareness as they want it – as those that have died are able to do so in the spiritualism, but with a technologicallische aidment.”
Are you talking about some form of mind control, Readabeard? Whose mind are they controlling?
April 8, 2018 at 1:24 PM #9322ReadabeardGuestHold up there Taro, I never said mind control, you did.
I maybe assumed too much that you had read Billy Meier books during all this time and not only investigated a single photo.
Are you aware of how many individuals live in the world? And is that a serious question Taro? Who? Really? Are you sure you know how many? I don’t know who.
This is no place for skeptic bullies Taro, if you want to engage skeptic bashing you need to join Horn at theyflyblog
April 8, 2018 at 3:00 PM #9323Darius Al JerhimardiGuestHello Taro and Readabeard
Contact Report 182 has example with Elsa. Here are selected quotes – the full contact has other parts.
63. Thus, her birth also took place at a place and in a family which were not originally determined by her but which we chose for her.
64. That you also played a certain role with her during childhood, this was also planned by us.
108. But now, the breach of her promise has persuaded the High Council to give its advice towards the removal of impulse assistance, the discontinuance of the contacts, and the abandonment of the life control of the fallible ones, who can be reincarnated – up to seven consecutive lives among the people of the Earth, with the full memory of this life and of their committed mistakes and deeds – where they will have no opportunity at all of arriving into knowing civilizations or of making their way up to a higher position in the nation in which they are born.
111. If we explain this enforced non-violence, then we do not act against the existing laws because the laws of Creation themselves include such provisions, according to which these natural laws always begin to work whenever a human life form degenerates and threatens to destroy certain Creational goals.
112. If the following lives are then lived according to natural laws, then in each case, there is a reintegration into the old form, by what means the normal condition prevails once again, so the memories of the past lives only appear as a notion.
120. Compared to us, Elsa is only an ignorant, tiny little thing, still nearly a newborn and ignorant person, who must first learn speech and thought in a laborious manner, while we already lead our lives in pure logic.
Taro’s question
“Is it POSSIBLE for aliens to have staged a fake UFO hoax?”
My opinion: yes very possible, “highly likely” actually. You are smart to devise this idea, you have spent much time thinking about this I think.However, don’t forget they also staged a genuine UFO landing and demonstration too, knowing later photos and witness evidence stories would be mixed together, whereby the genuine would stand out to lets call it ‘group a’ for our purposes of understanding and the fake ufo hoax would particularly stand out to ‘group b’ lets call it for our conversation purposes. Where they could then manage to ‘pools’ accordingly, whereby a third ‘group c’ would later arise, who would compare the pro with the con, and here we have ‘http://www.billymeieruforesearch.com/’ researching and archiving both the pro & con evidence of the case
It has all been very carefully planned, prepared and presented beautifully
April 8, 2018 at 3:08 PM #9324Darius Al JerhimardiGuestI forgot to say in my last post above. ‘group c’ unfortunately, despite knowing the landscape, would be plagued with the fundamental problem/floor lets call it of constantly being conflicted and let us say argumentative and at each others throats and so fourth. Which is a great friction and tension and confusion, but a success among ‘group c’ would later emerge probably, materially and consciously; they will know the truth in the end.
However ‘group a’ will be the only group who can experience the ‘reincarnation’ ‘prepared birth’ ‘influence’ ‘being prepared’ that Taro called the ‘mind control’ but it is not mind control in the way it is popularly convinced.
April 8, 2018 at 11:48 PM #9325William VerhulstGuestInteresting ideas Darius. It is a hypothesis, theory, philosophy’s of yours. It would if close to true explain why organised religions such as Christianity Catholicism Islam Buddhism Judaism Hinduism… had to be introduced by the Plejaren, that the group a’s as you called them had some small concession token gift at a minimum to sweeten the deal they were offered. But then it wouldn’t make sense that they were trying to take religions and beliefs away again and calling it relegeon, but then again, it would then make sense why they say the codex ended in 1998 and overpopulation has changed everything. As I say interesting concept Darius, but if it were true they would have just said that instead of getting Billy to write dozens of books. It could be that the Plejarens behaviour has not been normal to offer dozens of religions to a developing world, if it was not normal then we could hypothesise that Earth is recovering from a disaster in ancient times, asteroid belt etc as they have described and we have been recovering with their help. But they would have said all this before subjecting Billy to the labor of difficult written work.
April 9, 2018 at 4:47 AM #9326“Hold up there Taro, I never said mind control, you did.”
Here is what you wrote, Readabeard: “so they can turn your head to any consciousness-awareness as they want it”
This was your reservation to my fake hoax theory. Maybe it’s just me, but it sounded like you were suggesting mind control.
“I maybe assumed too much that you had read Billy Meier books during all this time and not only investigated a single photo.”
Yes, you did. I have not read everything Meier has published. Why would you make that assumption? Assumptions appear to be in abundance here at BMUFOR. And I have closely studied much of Meier’s UFO evidence, not just one photo.
“Are you aware of how many individuals live in the world? And is that a serious question Taro? Who? Really? Are you sure you know how many? I don’t know who.”
Sorry. Not sure what your point is here.
“This is no place for skeptic bullies Taro, if you want to engage skeptic bashing you need to join Horn at theyflyblog”
Bashing? Bullying? Careful with the accusations, Readabeard. All I did was ask you some simple questions.
April 9, 2018 at 4:49 AM #9327Darius, this theory isn’t mine. I first came across it from either James Deardorff or Rhal Zahi.
April 9, 2018 at 4:50 AM #9328“organised religions such as Christianity Catholicism Islam Buddhism Judaism Hinduism… had to be introduced by the Plejaren”
That’s not exactly what happened, William. Meier’s current spiritual teachings were apparently the same from his earliest incarnation on Earth. His teachings were distorted by others.
“But they would have said all this before subjecting Billy to the labor of difficult written work.”
According to Meier, this was all a choice he made in an earlier lifetime and also makes each life he is presented with, “the mission”.
April 9, 2018 at 9:28 AM #9329Ed V.GuestThe ET plausible deniability theory came from James Deardorff. It even wound up as a chapter in one of Timothy Good’s books. It’s an interesting concept. I discussed it with Meier supporters some 15 years ago and they eagerly accepted it for the Meier case but of course they didn’t use it for other cases. That would have meant going against megalomaniac Meier who desperately wants to be the single authority on ET contact.
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